/mtv/ - Media and Interests

It wasn't like this until like a year ago.
Even in 40k, Chaos isn't portrayed as being morally grey.
Its just retarded shit the devs made up to appeal to trannies and shit on Christianity. Also, to make the Muslim factions they added look better.

Fun fact: the reason the setting is so dead and niggery is because its media literate™ authors were so media literate™ that despite their best efforts they accidentally made Christianity look fucking METAL which attracted lots of Christians and right wingers in general, and the authors sperged out and told anyone who isn't a radical anti-white leftist to gtfo of the community, so now it's small, gay and retarded.

Im having grimdark fatigue, it's already super corny and no matter how you try and spin it ends up being the same exact shit. There is yet another dying game with similar theme on the brink of dnb, this time an extraction shooter called Forever Winter. It's all aesthetics and no substance with barebones lore. Sure it looks cool but the game itself is a jumbled mess of half-assed concepts and ideas and thats because majority of their team is comprised of artists, not programmers or game designers. Artists. Sounds familiar?

>>124364
Real, war isn't dim and grim it is bright and brutal. You will watch your friend get cut in half by shrapnel and there won't be a cloud in the sky. Grim dark is just a dark and griddy cop out that devalues the actual human experience that war entails there isn't gore and everyone that dies is a 2d sprite and not someone with a personality.

>>124375
The problem with the grimdark aesthetic is that almost no one trying to work within it even knows what it is at a fundamental level. Trench Crusade prides itself on being this resurrection of the true variety and viscerality and darkness that the aesthetic used to have before 40k became sterile and cliche and it's like, what the fuck are these people talking about? The idea of muting 40k's entire colour palette and taking everything 1000% ultra seriously all the time was never a thing, even the most cursory glance at its history shows this. Grimdark as it exists today was created as a consumer-identity to justify taking 40k lore as seriously as real world history so that the playerbase wouldn't have to feel insecure about being a bunch of pretentious manchildren. Passionless sunken-cost nonsense for whiny idiots that know nothing.

>>124357 (OP)
Trench Crusade is proof that modern 4chan isn't even capable of a very basic level of anti-wokeness, yet alone living up to this mecha-hitler internet hacker terrorist wizardry reputation its built for itself, because every TC general on /tg/ is just damage control for the objective fact that Trench Crusade is highly derivative of 40k, despises its fandom for being heckin' chuds, sees no hypocritical disconnect between these two ideas, has communists moderating its official Discord and despises Christianity. If you can't make a firm stance against these things just because "muh grimdark" why do I have to sit here and hear another fucking word about "gatekeeping" from you?

>>124380
But I need to paint my heckin modelrinos

>Real, war isn't dim and grim it is bright and brutal
Isn't real war kind of both tho? I think the problem that grimdark has nowadays is variety not only in aesthetics but also in writing