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nipah won

>>132784
rena won doe

>>132784
Oyyyyyyy, not the Nipah virus which is transmitted through infected fruit bats towards humans

>>132781 (OP)
watch kai next (the 2007 release) and GOD PLEASE DONT FUCK UP AND WATCH THE 2020 SERIES also read the vn its 50x better btw if that matters

tuff.

>>132811
This made me want to saw my ears off

It's just graphic edgelord shit.

>>133055
no its not nigger

>>133055
No, I think it is fundamentally about being psyoped/gangstalked into going crazy and how all narratives are CQNTRQLLED
though i havent watched kai yet, this is just a tentative analysis

>>132781 (OP)
The anime itself is trite and sort of a SparkNotes version of the visual novel. In general, Higurashi is a response to Christianity and it's allegorical.

>>133110
It's friendslop as well. Basically, "trust your friends" and "forgive others". The lesson that is demonstrated through Teppei for example is, "killing is never the solution and you should always hold out for a miracle", the whole story is about humans working together to create a miracle.

>>133726
I didn't really think that the moral in ch. 3 was necessarily that Keiichi killing Teppei was wrong just because "killing is never the solution", I think the problem was more so that Keiichi did so for selfish reasons. He didn't actually do anything to help Satoko while she was in that situation, he just killed Teppei so he could be happy again, without regard for anyone else's feelings or the consequences that would follow. The novel makes it very clear that Teppei is a detestable person who really does deserve death, but that the death he was given was not really because of those terrible actions, but rather because Keiichi was incredibly selfish and narrow-minded

>>133726
I thought ryukishi wanted to give insight on why people kill to show us characters who did gruesome things yet still give us the chance to understand their actions

>>133802
The opinion I have on the subject is from the author's notes section of the VN, where he explicitly lays this out better than I can formulate it in text (To my understanding, this was inspired by Tsukihime somehow(?)). Essentially, the entire idea of Chapter 3 is again, creating the miracle, overcoming the insurmountable, namely failing governmental bureacracies and Satoko's own stupidity. Your reading is good, yes, but the idea of Higurashi is that *anyone can be redeemed*. In the cancer known as Gou, to my understanding, effort is put into redeeming and saving Takano's and Teppei's characters. Additionally, Takano, despite being the single, categorical devilish evil in the story is A) influenced by a third party and B) acts as a foil to Satoko (illustrated more thoroughly in Lambadelta), which is Ryuikishi's way of basically saying that "anyone can end up like Takano under the same circumstances". Rena does the exact same thing as Keiichi does for more noble reasons: she kills the prostitute and Teppei and succumbs to madness.

>>133805
That is a possible reading, but if you think about all of the murders, it essentially comes down to some form of distrust between the respective characters. For example, Chapter 1 is all about Keiichi distrusting his friends, and killing them owing to him succumbing to Hinamizawa syndrome. Rika's miracle of finding the culprit of Hinamizawa is created through Keiichi miraculously remembering these events and actually buying her crazy story that she is going to be killed.

>>133816
From Meakashi's staff room:

Do you think that murder can be justified, depending on the motive?

>Hi, this is Ryuukishi07.
>Thank you for playing Higurashi When They Cry Kai - Ch.5 Meakashi.
>Although I depict many deaths in my work, I often ask myself a question.
>That question is: is there such a thing as justifiable murder?
>In our world, murder is prosecuted, and the degree of punishment varies depending on the motive and circumstances.
>Having different degrees of punishment means that we are putting a value on the dead person's life.
>Some scenes justify murder in 'Higurashi'.
>By degrading the life of the victim in those scenes, the players can sympathize with the character more easily.
>The degree of sympathy would be different from person to person.
>The people who could sympathize probably felt catharsis, and the people who disagreed with the character might have felt uncomfortable.
>That's indicated by how opinions were polarized regarding Keiichi's actions in Tatarigoroshi.
>In Meakashi, there are also a number of murders.
>But this time, the main character, Shion, tries to earn sympathy for each one of them.
>How did you feel?
>How much were you able to sympathize with her?
>If you couldn't sympathize with her at all, then please berate her as a crazy murderer.
>If you sympathized with her at all, then please have mercy on her.
>If you sympathized with her almost entirely, then please have mercy on her.
>If you completely sympathized with her, then please let us berate both of you as crazy murders (lol).
>What about me?
>……Well, that's a secret.
>I'd like to reverse my question this time… What kind of murderer could you sympathize with, if you were to be killed?
>A murderer who doesn't care about people's lives?
>That'd be quite a regrettable death.
>It's extremely sad to be killed in denial of all your values.
>A murderer who begs for forgiveness in tears?
>That'd be quite regrettable too.
>They shouldn't kill you at all if they're begging your forgiveness, ha ha.
>So, what kind of murderer could you sympathize with…?
>In the end, 'sympathy' might be just a method for making the story more interesting.
>If you can sympathize, it's fun.
>If you can't sympathize, they're just crazy.
>We cannot put value on human life.
>It's a sin to even try doing so.
>A murder is a murder. Nothing more than that.

>>133819
From Matsuribayashi's staff room:
>To answer this, I have to explain the worldview of this story first.

>There are hints all over, but the crucial ones are in the Tatarigoroshi and Minagoroshi chapters.

>Satoko's uncle comes home and Satoko's life becomes miserable.
>How can she be rescued from that situation?

>If this story was an exercise in murder, then the Tatarigoroshi chapter is the correct answer.
>Keiichi kills Teppei and hides his body well. There's a happy ending.

>But I didn't end the episode that way. Instead, I denied it with a bad ending.

>The resolution the worldview of Higurashi - When They Cry advocates is a nonviolent one, with everyone united together.

>>133725
>response to christianity
I'll watch out for it when viewing kai
>>133726
>It's friendslop as well. Basically, "trust your friends" and "forgive others".
I dont really agree. In every arc the nigga going insane prioritizes hearsay over their friends.
Also the murder of satoko's bull was portrayed as ostensibly a good thing, there wasn't a moment when redemption was even suggested for that character

>>133865
You only watched the first season you dont have a say in the friendslop thing because higurashis message literally is trust your friends be honest with eachother and work together to reach ur desired future to avoid tragedy

>>133871
bro you dont have to leak this hard over a small disagreement

>>133875
Its vn stuff u realize that in tsumihoroboshi the arc is in season one

>>133865
I mean. Those are my words but not my interpretation, just read the staff room that I posted to see what I mean. On the response to Christianity, pay attention to Hanyuu, the language used (you will see "sin" used a lot and forgiveness of it), and Takanos own misunderstanding of Christianity

>>133876
Also yeah the anime is just really compressed and doesn't convey the meaning as well. On your OP you said that it was Takano forcing the worms, which isn't what is happening, because they don't exist at all.

>>133881
>which isn't what is happening, because they don't exist at all.
bro I finally thought I had found wormpill kino…

>>133889
It's kind of up in the air as to what causes Hinamizawa syndrome, but Rena's formication is hallucination. However. There is a parasite in Hinamizawa (that originates from space or supernaturally) that influences behavior, and possibly influences what someone believes in as well, which is the crux of Takanos grandfather's work.