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>>69743'aped image quality award
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>>69767if I had a nickel hor every time I heard about how Dess raped Kris, or how Kris raped Noelle, I would bath in gold like Scrooge McDuck. Deltatroon fans are obsessed with sexual assault.
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>>69773that's why I don't really like it anymore.
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Why the hell do we need 5000+ deltarune threads written like a 4chan offsiter made them? Maybe if nobody is talking on the to the point where you feel the need to make a new one then you should take a hint that we don't need more
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>>69743uhh something, something same reason as why modern white supramacists are almost always brown
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>>69819I look like all of them and say this
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>>70078Chapter 2 was NOT good.
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>>70087Yeah the game started to go to shit once chapter 2 came out
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>>70087Chapter 2 came out at the perfect time for people to ignore its flaws. Everyone was too busy sucking off Spamton-related shit which would all be turned into a joke/retconned later on throughout the game's lifespan, and 2000's internet nostalgia was starting to kick in around that time.
imo, I think the worst thing Chapter 2 ever did was starting Noelle's turkish-telenovela-ass family drama. That shit shouldn't have taken over the plot the way it ended up doing so and it just soiled the following Light world segments.
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>>70140Noelle's family drama could've worked if it was a reasoning behind her slowly falling to darkness and becoming the final villain, but of course that doesn't happen. Also the vibe from chapter 1 just vanished with chapter 2
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>>70149Her transformation in the weird route doesn't feel realistic. Sure the lake scene looks cool, but the way Noelle acted in that scene isn't how any actual human being would behave ever. At least Chara was more understated and believable as a psycho/traumatized child that wanted revenge. I'm just not buying Noelle going insane and it's not disturbing or cool.
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>>70163Oh definitely the lake scene needed far more buildup and development as well as some slight reworks to gove it the impact it's intended to have
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>>70167Yeah, people will excuse it because of aura or vibes. The weird route just isn't creepy because it doesn't feel like an accident in the way the genocide route did. It doesn't feel like a creepypasta but rather crappy fanfic.
>>70106I still remember beating chapter one and thinking Deltarune was going to be gritty and cool. I'm so fucking disappointed. If anything it's less gritty than Undertale.
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>>70173I'm curious why that is and how you'd make it feel like a creepypasta because I think toby was also going off of those old playground rumors where you'd do a bunch of stuff for pikablu or missingno for example
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>>70181The genocide route is more creepy because it feels like you're doing something the game doesn't want you to do. As a consequence you miss out on a lot of content by doing the route and the ending isn't climatic. The weird route is different because you don't miss much content by doing it. The world and characters don't push back in the same way as the genocide route. Instead of pushing the world to its breaking point it's like you're exploring a part of the game that was already there, carved out for you, waiting there. Weird route ending might also be a "true" or "good" ending in some kind of way. I suspect it'll end with some sort of climatic boss or giant lore reveal, making it necessary to the story in a way genocide wasn't.
There was also the aspect of slowly revitalizing Chara's presence through Frisk and the implications that brought to Chara's character. Chara doesn't have much dialogue in geno, but what is there is interesting. It's more understated than Noelle "I-I-I- w-w-ant t-his, K-Kris… I w-w-want it to s-s-now…" mindbreak bs. That's my explanation for why I don't like the route much. It has a couple decent scenes but it's just not the same.
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>>70184I see, I think the issue with the genocide route can get pretty boring at times in between certain bossfights, but the weird route definitely should have some of the other characters begin to give Kris and Noelle looks of suspicion like what if Berdly actually died and in chapter 4 during the weird route we see his ghost or something try to attack kris?
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>>70185I might be in the minority here but I don't think geno is boring. Undertale's combat is simple but I like timing the hits. I think the boredom of some parts is also intended, as it's trying to make it as tedious for you as possible to continue, trying to make you question why you're doing geno at all. I hope weird route sticks the landing though, maybe it'll all make sense once it's over.
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>>70246muh heckin PS1 inspired indie game with trans representation
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>>70229>Blaming shit from what may as well be the Stone Age for your favourite's game sudden drop of positive reception.>3.5k updootsThese goyim, man.
<I tried to research this guy's activity by just typing his username on the reddit searchbar (since his messages are hidden and oldreddit's apparently harvesting data now too) and it's mostly carti-shit, although it gave some 4chan and Class of 09 related stuff. Xhe has a tranime girl with a soviet background, so there's a chance he's a 4kike.
Also, image for ants or whatever the 4cucka says.
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toby foxberg is genuinely a retarded nigger who just cant write story, there is no other reason why weird route is such a nothingburger every fucking chapter.
i've waited 5 years since ch2 came out for weird route to turn into a beautiful a24 aryanΓem horror, it had EVERYTHING already set up for being a 10/10 horror and the only thing we've got is ch5 double suicide segment (which is 10 minutes of content btw) that was mildly flabbergasting and nothing else. all the chekhov guns are just sitting there and doing nothing, and its CHAPTER 5 ALREADY where the fuck is happenings toby yuo nigger
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>>70317hope at the very least he would make a good climax and ending in the last 2 chapters
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>>70367tojeet fox is bharati
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>>70275I grabbed it from kiwi farms or however the avif file is converted to png
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>>70385Toby won't i know it
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>>70367xhe looks immensely jewish in this image
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>>70149chapter 2 had a better vibe, I dunno what you're talking about. AotKQ and Berdly's theme mog all of the first chapter's tunes.
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>>70735oh definitely, there should be way more gameplay for the weird route like idk, maybe bringing Noelle home at the end instead of Susie and having some shit happen in chapter 3 or actually having a dark world to play through in chapter 5
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>>70737βaping the doe on home turf instead
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>>70731he is an honorary aryan BLACK MAN ty very much
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>>70741Maybe but after that idk what could happen in chapter 4's weird route, maybe for chapter 3 we could see one of the tvs reporting on Berdly's death only for Noelle to freeze it instantly
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>>70827based and dusty car pilled.
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Fagslop game Deltatroon fans LOOOVVVEEEE their queerslop
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JSID this shit is brimstone everywhere i see coal faqqotslop
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>>70872>>70827Too many trvkes
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if toby fox was ryan he wouldve made the battle gameplay for reg enemies actually complex
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Ahah, che coglione buffo.
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>>71102Translation: Haha, what a funny asshole.
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>>71098How about Asshole Theory
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>>71098kind of ironic how many of the theories from when we just had chapters 1 and 2 were far better than what we actually got and how chapters 67 are shaping up to be a disaster
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tfw you realise the 'fox was actually responsible for making the most amount of troons in history
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>>71098>Underground secret lab / whatever the fuck holoebolacaust joooooo tunnels.I know Undertale already did this with Alphys, Sans and Gaster, but this is reaching Poppy Playtime / Bendy levels of boring absurdity.
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>>71163Industrial Rape Machine
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>>71163evendoe troons were all over the web years before undertale and undertale was initially popular on /v/ before tumblr glommed onto it and nothing in undertale explicitly references troonery other than that one lion putting on a dress which I didn't even know about till this year
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>>71228Something, something, Andrew Hussie and what the guy before me said.
Adding to dis, there's a somewhat huge overlap between 4cuck oldfags and tumblrinas (keep in mind that at some point in time, porn alongside faggotry were the law in tumblr. Sound familiar?). /vg/, /co/ and other oc oriented boards used to be hot spots for tumblrtwats who didn't want to be caught doing a hecking no-no on their main account.
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>>71228Why did Nobaldi care Geg.
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>>71338Idk prolly because they were so few and far between until the 2010s is my best guess
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>>71335Toby said he expected Undertale to have a niche audience so I don't assume it was pandering to every popular trend on Tumblr even if he was definitely influenced by it.
It's politically correct garbage nonetheless but I just don't see what in the game itself would make you think it's a good idea to cut your dick off.
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>>69734 (OP)I don't get why people keep engaging with this game. I got over viciously hating Toby Fox, but objectively - his game(s) are narratively and mechanically underdeveloped.
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>>71442You act like if and when deltarune is finished and outed as a failure the amount of haters won't increase
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>>71433>Toby said he expected Undertale to have a niche audienceThat's just humble bragging from his side. I find it hard to believe that a man with seemingly unlimited connections to everyone on the indiesphere ever actually thought that one of his products was going to be irrelevant; that and two other things: 1. He most definitely knew that the game's main method of marketing was going to be mid to big Youtubers (who have always been in Kahoots with sites like Tumblr, especially Nintendo fans, and thus Mother fans as well), and 2. The whole "Undertale being a test-run for Deltarune" thing just screams that he made UT too gauge up interest (and revenue) for his """Dream project""".
If there ever had been a "niche audience" for Deltarune, it would have been the same Tumblr users who initially backed the game (may I remind you of UT's guest characters).
>It's politically correct garbage nonethelessEven worse, his ideas predate that crap
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>>71459He also definitely pandered to
(((them))) when he turned Napstablook into a(nother) genderqueer blob just days before release
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>charges 25 bucks for it evendoe its not worth that much compared to other popular titles that make it look like a baby game mechanics and gameplay wise
>price tag ignores the jillions he earned from the previous title and is still earning through merch and shit
>adds blatant references to irl merch and how much that costs lol
And people still claim he's not jewish
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>>71502yeah ts is why I want to see Deltarune fail so the facade is removed and people from all sides have free reign to tear into him
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>>71459political correctness existed since the 70s
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>>71654Well yeah, but I was referring to the 2010s' "please get my pronouns right" PCness style instead of the post-MLKjr literal boomer hippie crap.
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>>71654He should've said Wokeness or something like that. PC is an older movement.
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>>71397I was responding to the below reply about the game turning 11 years old I accidentally pressed the wrong one sorry
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>>71693It's alright but it's funny how the 11th anniversary came and went as if nobaldi cared
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I feel too old for Deltarune. Undertale is still cool but Deltarune almost feels like it was made for a younger audience. Iβm really disillusioned. This game is a bunch of shitty meme humor followed by walking through corridors and vagueposting. Most of the character designs look like they were designed by 14-year-olds. Itβs honestly fucking embarrassing. Iβm an Undertale fan but not a Deltarune fan.
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>>71790oh definitely, to make it worse Chapters 1 and 2 were somewhat interesting
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>>71790I don't get this really. Undertale had loads of embarrassing crap, especially when you got to Hotland. Mettaton's 4th wall breaking sequences? Everything Alphys says? Tsunderplane?
Napstablook talks like a depressed Tumblr punching bag who has "piece of trash" in his profile, Aaron talks in txt speak with emotes. It's all meme humour.
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>>70248That part of the song is inferior to the original version of the same but other then that I agree.
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>>71826>Mettaton's 4th wall breaking sequences?I donβt remember that many 4th wall breaks with Mettaton. The bomb sequence was funny.
>Everything Alphys says?I can see why people would dislike her but she talks like a real person somewhat. If you disagree compare her dialogue to Berdly, Lancer, Queen, or Rouls in Deltarune. Alphys is comparatively grounded and the humor relies on her personality rather than exaggerated cartoon-like behavior or sound bites (Tenna and Flowery).
>Tsundereplane?I didnβt mind it. Mildly charming though I can see why others would dislike it.
>Napstablook talks like a depressed Tumblr punching bag who has "piece of trash" in his profile,Feels more like a shy reclusive character than something specific to Tumblr.
>Aaron talks in txt speak with emotes.He talks like an online creep so itβs still a vaguely grounded personality type, unlike Berdly, Queen, or those other characters I mentioned that are not human-like personalities at all.
>It's all meme humour.The only things that really stand out to me are Tsundereplane and Temmie. Undertale has sprinkles of meme humor atop a strong comedic core, whereas Deltaruneβs core IS the meme humor. And itβs a lot less charming or forgivable than the little meme humor in Undertale.
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What's the consensus on Obama Baterson
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>>71871>BerdlyIt's insane how most normal people don't notice that he's just the creators' punching bag (alongside Asgore, and burgernigga to a degree).
Berdly would come off as a more grounded character if everyone in town treated him as if he were Snowy (kinda like how Queen does). He's one of the few characters in this tumblr-worddsoup game that would actually benefit from being more explicitly insecure about himself (instead we got that spelling bee cutscene which kind of sucks imo. It basically did a speedrun on his character-arc).
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>>71890I get pick me vibes from how Toby writes Berdly, Asgore, and Burgerpants. He would never treat female characters like that. I know that sounds chuddy but itβs true.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Deltacriticism/s/KMvXAgWqYNalso there is the original concept of humans becoming monsters for deltarune which would've been interesting to see and would've benefitted toby instead of having his magnum opus too heavily tied to undertale
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>>71871Sans is the only character that felt like a truly grounded real person to me. I can see preferring Undertale for him alone, cause the only time a Deltarune character feels as real is Noelle in some of her exchanges with Kris in Chapter 2.
Otherwise I'm not that interested in existing personality types when they're of one-note weirdos that I don't want to interact with anyway. I'd rather see an out-there character that I wouldn't see anywhere else. Berdly and Queen were funny to me, though I find Rouxls and Lancer too dumb.
>>71891Me too, though I gegged at Bratty being a jealous bitch in Chapter 5.
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>>72202what deltarune could've been if Toby locked in
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>>72415>BHCKill xim NAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOW
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>>72457>>71897Yeah and now that I think about it the original concept of humans becoming monsters in the dark world would've somewhat handled the furfaggotry
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>>71886in the 'ki he's put under the list of deltachuds on the toby fox page. previous versions say he makes gemmy edits, but somephono edited it to say he makes branigger edits.
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>>72612What would human Onionsan look like?
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>>72620good question, perhaps onionsan would be one of the monsters that isn't human, kinda like there was some weird stuff in earthbound and mother 3? would otherwise mean normal NPC would be doing some cannibal shit
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>>72620>>72626Though Onionsan could also be a dummy who swims in the lake frequently before Normal NPC turns xim into humanyaki
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>>72612if the characters are all human there'd be way more niggers like Blue
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>>72748I mean good point that is a possibility
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SHAYY RETURNED.
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Maybe I should finish writing out Onion route.
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>>72876I assume something about meat factory is gonna end up there?
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>>72895Yes. Meat factory is mentioned.
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This has probably been repeated many times, but I think Chapter 5 being "sO sILLy!!" shit right after 4 tried to have escalated the story to be somewhat more serious like Chapter 1 and a more orthodox JRPG was an awful idea. Chapter 3 already served it's purporse as "The last funny tale" even if it wasn't well received. If you played or replayed Chapters 1 and 2 before it's release and after playing Chapter 4 you can realise Chapter 3 is some sort of bridge between silly and slightly more serious stuff. I didn't even play Chapter 5 because as soon as I saw the flowers being turned into humanoid "quirky" characters I knew it was going to be Troonblr NIGGERHELL at it's max (the previous chapters managed to somewhat conceal the tumblr-ish nature of Toby as slightly original). Turns out I wasn't wrong from what I heard, I still haven't played because I am too busy and the 100% guide wasn't complete. Heard there's few interesting story bits but not much. What's worse is that Chapter 4 still had some stakes, the whole evil group Asgore and Kris thing, people starting to suspect about dark worlds at festival, seeing how isolated the town really was at festival, seeing Susie and Ralsei act differently from Chapter 4's events, schizobabble like the Woody thing and a generally more slightly serious tone as the game settled into it's final half. Instead (((Toby))) decided to cater to troonblr shit despite chapters 3 and remotely 2 doing it already and setting stuff in 4.
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>>72905Sorry if there are any ESLs, it's late here and I am somewhat sleepy.
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>>72877when i saw the dress lion running around at 10:40 i was waiting for frisk to ACK him.
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>>72908the dress lion gets killed at 11:53 btw
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>>72908somephono genuinely ACKs at 23:47 geg
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>>72905yeah I bet you when chapter 6 7 comes out there'll be even more demand for a rewrite and I might write something related to rewriting chapters 1-5 since 2face probably won't get started for a bit
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>>73034Now that I think of it, the festival should've been saved for chapter 7 when the roaring happens
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>>73076Giggers…why are you supporting a known pedophile?
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>>73104like the gigger said, it makes a tranny seethe
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>>73107but are we sure this is the way to make Cibles seethe?
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>>73111We tried 'oxing Cibles, but it was a technically a faildox. People supporting Shayy after he released his 2 hour defense video seems to be what makes Cibles seethe the most right now.
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I don't understand how anyone that isn't transgender enjoys Deltarune. From the very start the game is absolute brimstone. Maybe I'm too much of a chud to understand the appeal of gender-bending monsters dialoguing about faggot shit for hours on end.
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these troon niggas are so ugly and unemployed istg, if the 'talerune series didn't exist they'd probably rope by now or maybe even live normal lives although I doubt it since the troon nature would manifest through other games like oneshot and such
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Everyone knows Deltarune is cool as fuck. But who knows what Toby's thinking? Who knows why he baits theorists? And why do we think about Deltarune as fondly as we think of the mythical (nonexistent?) Portal 3? Perchance.
I believe it was Miyamoto who said "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad." Deltarune exhibits rushedness by breezing through everyone's character arcs, but it exhibits delay by waiting to reveal the answers to all its mysteries until the last possible moment. Keep it up, baby!
When Deltarune releases a new chapter that doesn't advance the plot at all, Toby knows that it may be Hated. And yet, for the sequel to one of the most beloved games ever made, success becomes all but guaranteed. Something it's already achieved, much as a rich man no doubt inherited his wealth from his parents. We think of Deltarune as a masterpiece, but it is merely a one percenter of a more privileged variety. The fankind. Perchance.
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My content is better
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>>73076im so fucking confused about this drama. people are genuinely saying to watch shayy's video and that he makes great points. the only people i have seen hating on him are the comments from the videos you linked to. it feels like it was pretty set in stone that he was a pedo turbo groomer until now.
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>>73197Yeah something tells me some motherfuckers lack a spine
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>>73197You are talking to a gigger, nigga. Just discredit anything weird he says.
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>>73210i dont just mean this gigger, i mean people outside of this site.
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shayy looks like he could ape though i aint even gon cap
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>>73221yeah he does look like an apist
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ok I finally started work on the rewrite starting with mechanics, so far I would add summons, swapping party members, and possibly the ability to gain xp from sparing enemies and de-coupling the getting stronger mechanic from xp and making it something else
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>>73475as in the rewrite doc
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>>73474Isnβt this song title reference to a homestuck song?
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Itβs supposed to be a remix
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>>73009He should bleach his skin
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>>73484yes. it's a recent trend on the undertale au community to have the Megalovania replacement be another one of Toby Fox's songs that he made that isn't used in ut/dr since megalovania was originally not made for undertale.
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finally found a chuddy take on the Shayy situation
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>>73617A couple comments are saying xe is a lolipedo but if true it would be another crap in a bucket and thus geggy to watch them tear eachother apart
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all of this because of one jew and gamemaker
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>>73777to think we'd be here because of that
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>>73798Wow. I used to listen to this and his 1995 mixtape all of the time. Best Halloween songs of all time right next to Thriller. Want to hear something creepier? It is said that rock-pop singer Umyum "Onion" Sandiego, who disapeared after her first song for the group "Red Hot Chibi Peppers," was caused by a producer for Gaster. It is said that a local monster simply named by authorities as Norman, was brought up onto the scene after investigations in his stand revealed traces of Umyum's corpse, which accumulated into the police finding Umyum's corpse, sailor outfit and all, found stuck on a meat hook with her torso and hair/tenticles cut off. Norm was arrested and brought into trial. In said trial, he has proclaimed himself to being a producer for Gaster, before going on an insane tangent about how much he " loves the books in the library" and to "don't wait" before saying "Wait…don't!" Because of this, he was unfit for trial, taken into a mental institution and was released 15 days later. Gaster has neither confirmed nor denied this, and Norman, as part to conspiracy theorists, was nicknamed "The Hometown Butcher." I hope this isn't true because dang, that would ruin the song for me. I remember when her single dropped. Despite all other praise for the band's one hit wonder, Umyum was bullied by detractors for her short-term memory loss, her weight, and her weird appearence/behavior, especially her smile. She would often have bodyguards to protect her, incase of anyone hurting her. Yet even then, Umyum still had a smile on her face, which made me feel even worse for her, especially since there were reports of her violently sobbing after shows, calling herself "disgusting" and that she would want to "go away with her parents to her mother's house in Japan and never show her face to the world again y'hear [*something she liked saying that made her sound "western.]". I never found her ugly at all. In fact, she looked adorable, especially for someone who was "morbidly" overweight at the time. All of that harassment just to get murdered and cooked alive. Worst of all, her corpse was served to many different people in the form of Takoyaki, meaning all of those people were eating the corpse of a 17 year old popstar. It was even right when she was scheduled to release her second single, an unreleased track from December "Dess" Holiday rumored to be given to Gaster at one point before she disapeared named "Song of the Sea." That poor girl should have never went through anything like she did. Eventually, Song of the Sea was used and remade in Dess's "post-humous" Album "DELTARUNE" for her band Blood Crushers as a slow instumental in Side B track 8. While this version is more well-known and released to the public, Umyum's version, however, was never released to the public out of respect for her death. The song would have been more upbeat "Synth-Rock" Pop, compared to the slowness of Dess's version. A day after the arrest of Norm, the town of hometown, the town where Umyum was murdered in, had publically announced that any and all forms of Takoyaki or octopus related foods were to be banned in any future festivals going foreward. This was especially noted when anyone who attempted to bypass the law by sneaking in and eating takoyaki and/or any attempt in bringing takoyaki back into the festivals were either found dead or had to be hospitalized due to severe food poisoning. Legend has it that the food poisonings that happened were in part of Umyum's ghost cursing the Takoyaki, making it poisonous for anyone to eat. This theory became known as the Curse of Umyum/The Onion curse.
Besides that, At least Umyum was given tribute. I remember her twin sister, named Onion-San by her fans, became the new lead singer for Chibi peppers and is still alive today. I hope Umyum is at peace with God and His Son Jesus in Heaven.
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>>73887yeah it is in fact over for Toby before it even began and he has nobody to blame but himself