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What do you define as art? Can you give an example of media that would qualify in your mind as art and one that would be entertaintment? Im not trying to be snarky i want to better understand your question because i think we have very different views on entertaintment and art.
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I think video games as a medium lean more towards entertainment rather than art but it still contains some properties of art like cinematography, imagery, music, narrative and messaging. The last of us and whether movie game you can think of suck not because they try to be art but because they try to tell a story the same way movies or books do. Video games have gameplay in them which tends to fight with traditional ways of storytelling for the players attention and time. I think a game can become art if it manages to balance these two or find a way to tell story through gameplay. I can't think of many games id classify as art, maybe sifu and journey purely because of their visual aspects. If silent hill 1 and 2 had better voice acting id *maybe* say they are art.

>>61364
>I think a game can become art if it manages to balance these two or find a way to tell story through gameplay
While still having a compelling story.

>>61359 (OP)
Games are games. Art is art. Games are meant to be interacted with while art is meant to be witnessed. A game can have artistic qualities, but it will never be REAL art, and there's nothing wrong with that. The reason some people get upset about games being treated the same as art is because they want games to have the same respect art has. They want games to be as historically significant as a book, painting, film, or song. The main difference between any of those mediums and gaming is that games were never meant to be anything like them. They were meant to be in the same category of other inventions meant for play like toys, board games, and even sports. Making the next step from physical play to digital play. I don't want games to be more like art since it would take away from what makes it unique. However, that doesn't exempt them from criticism just like any other craft. Stagnation and mediocrity is just as bad for games as it is art. I'd say it's even worse since unlike art you can seemingly feel when a game is poorly made (I'm talking about really shitty games, common examples being anything made by sonic team and game freak within the past decade).