>>59563 (OP)first game is kinda okay, just your generic hekken incomprehensible rpgm game, like Middens, Space Funreal, Off and other shit of that time.
second one is a grind hell. there's gorillion fucken encounters everywhere. tho the graphics are gooder and ost is a bit more various.
i beat it with CE in 3-4 hours while people on steam have about 12-16 hours.