/tech/ - Soyence and Technology

What are you using your computer for?

>>41604 (OP)
do you have 4gb of RAM? OS ram overhead is basically snca with 8gb or more
Just Werks and non-systemd are mutually exclusive. There's too much shit tying into soystemd for that

>>41605
Usually normie shit. I watch videos, post here, make music and art, and use Librewolf and Mullvad.
>>41606
I have 16 gigs. Still, I want MORE performance.
>Just Werks and non-systemd are mutually exclusive. There's too much shit tying into soystemd for that
Can you explain that? I can debug shit well enough (googling and, if things are quiet on the forum front, ChatBBC). I just don't like using a (((Ubuntu))) derivative.

>>41610
>MORE performance
80% of your idle used RAM is preloaded dynamic libraries the system uses across multiple programs, it's le good thing, and also means processes can take lower working set memory on their own. The other major memory hog on idle is your desktop shell, so switching to LxQt will drop RAM usage
Login requires a systemd component on a lot of display managers. You'll need greetd or relying on elogind retardation. Lots of software ships with the assumption systemd is the init, or only gets documented with systemd. Chrome won't even do tab sandboxing without dbus, another component commonly shit on as a memory toaster (Though it's only loaded once, thankfully)

>samefag
Performance is usually optimized on the basis of actual system response.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Frequently_asked_questions#Why_is_Arch_using_all_my_RAM?
Usually, modern OSes (all of them) make the tradeoff to stuff precomputed things in your unused RAM on purpose. This reduces necessary disk I/O, and makes the system waste less CPU. So it's more responsive and power efficient as a result. It may also dynamically -o3 code paths that're constantly hit as a caching strategy. Linux manages memory automatically and will compress and fold things down before thinking about swapping (I have never swapped enough to feel it on my 16gb RAM system that often has tons of crap running. For that matter I haven't swapped too much on WINDOWS)

>>41611
>>41613
Interesting. Thanks for that. I am still looking for no systemd doebeit

>>41614
Depends on how you want to manage system services, drivers and other activity.
>what the fuck is a service
If you need to ask that you're in too deep tbh.

>>41615
>Services
Like active apps or something?
What OS would you recommend for me then?

OpenRC is the Gentoo classic and inspired by the daemon management on FreeBSD. You use .rc scripts instead of systemd inf style unit files.
dinit is basically just the launchd parts of systemd without logind or whatever the fuck. A lot of the complaints about systemd have to do with other utilities calling themselves systemd (Like fucking systemd-boot, which wasn't even called systemd until those retards moved it into the systemd git server)

>>41616
No, lower level. Things like your WiFi driver and audio API are often implemented as service daemons

>>41616
As far as distros, it's a matter of package release schedules and package manager configuration. Everything else is just defaults. Pretty much all Linuxes use the same structure besides a few oddballs. You don't care about getting updates now? Debian 13. You really care about updates now (Or hate the release cycle issues)? Arch. You want updates now and avx2 compiled packages? CachyOS. Or just add the cachy repos to an arch install kek. You want BSD because you're an oldfag? Gentoo

>>41617
>OpenRC
I intended to use that one anyway. Being inspired on FreeBSD makes it a gemerald in my opinion
>dinit
So it's just less retarded soystemd?
>>41618
Makes sense. Thanks for explaining it for me!
>>41619
>You don't care about getting updates now? Debian 13.
I'm a lazy nigger so that's why I like it. I used it before and it's a gem.
>You really care about updates now (Or hate the release cycle issues)? Arch.
I really don't.
>avx2
Don't know what that is.
>Gentoo
I have heard a lot about it on here. Is it good or is it a broken mess like Arch? I'm willing to try it as a live USB to see if I like it. Also I like oldfaggotry, so it may be something for me.

Arch infra seems like it's riding high, these days. Valve is also funding a bunch of shit that will have the most application for Arch, because SteamOS. I'm running Cachy and it actually has an updated installer, feels better, snappier. Wouldn't come back to Mint or anything Ubuntu-based. Shit feels halfway like abandonware.