/tech/ - Soyence and Technology

faggot

just look for one on facebook marketplace o algo

>>32503 (OP)
Don't pay money for it, look in scrapyards or if your relative works in an old office/tech company ask them if their IT guys have some still lying around
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My guess is you fell for the
>GUYS PIXEL ART WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PLAYED ON CRT'S!!!!!!
meme, but most retards don't realize that only works on TV CRT'S since they are interlaced and low res, PC CRT's are much crisper and not interlaced
also yes, crt's HAVE perfect contrast and great colors, people also keep repeating they have instant pixel response, which is true, the electron beams light up the phosphor instantly, but none of those retards say IT TAKES 1/10 OF A SECOND FOR THE PHOSPHOR TO STOP GLOWING so especially in dark games you get a massive ghosting effect, nullifying any pixel response benefits
also make sure you have a big desk and don't plug them in an outlet with other stuff or they start coil whining
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if you still want to get one, look for something above 19' and pay attention to the horizontal frequency spec, that dictates what the maximum resolution/refresh rate the monitor can drive
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I have a fondness for CRT's too, actually own three of them,but I never spent any real money on them. and after actually using them, I don't ever plan to
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judging from your post, you were already in a mindset to drop some cash on an overpriced ebay listing, so please do yourself a favour and spend that money on a new OLED, current gen has literally only upsides compared to any other display technology, yes even CRT's
and for MUH ACCURATE PIXEL ART, just fucking use shaders, they look better too

>>32509
here's more SNCA information for you:
http://www.hometheaterengineering.com/bandwidthcalculator.html use this site to figure out the maximum resolution your monitor can drive, put in your desired resolution (I found 1440x1080 was ok for using a modern desktop on a CRT) and put your desired max displayed FPS into the vertical refresh rate, it will then show you the required MHz bandwith
compare that to the spec of your monitor (you'll have to track down it's manual for that, good luck with that if you get some nophono name crt geg), if the required mhz is higher than what your monitor can drive, you'll have to tone down the resolution or/and the refresh rate
BUT WAIT this is where you realize most CRT's are fucking garbage. under 70Hz the screen flicker is noticeable to pretty much anyone and if you're sensitive, will cause you a headache. that's why you should shoot for a 75-80hz minimum refresh rate
the brutal reality is a lot of monitors can't manage that refresh rate at a decent resolution, so yeah, enjoy using modern windows on 720p resolution
so yeah, horizontal frequency is the most important spec, right after the actual screen size
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another headache will be connectivity, unless you have a retro rig you'll need an adapter, either a dvi to vga if you still have a gpu with dvi output, or the worst scenario, you'll need a dp/hdmi to vga converter
that's when you find out, somehow, they aren't common at all, or they are but can drive 60hz MAX, so you'll spend weeks looking for a quality one, pay a fortune for it, only to realize it doesn't werk. good luck. startech is the recommended brand but they stopped production on their hdmi/vga converters afaik.
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btw you already heard this, but the diamond standard for crt's were trinitron's, it was sony's patented aperture grill tech which makes those monitors the clearest (the ""pixel"" pattern is a grid of vertical rectangles, as opposed to the honeycomb pattern on all other crt's). diamondtron's are the same thing, I think it was panasonic's copy of the sony tech
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and last snca wisdom: gettign a crt is a massive gamble, considering all of them are older than any user of this site
if it manages to be functional in the firts place, there's a good chance it will have fucked up geometry, you can try fixing it by degaussing or by placing magnets on it, but there's a good chance the geometry will be so skewed and fucked up it will always look shit no matter what. and no, you have 0% chance of repairing the electron gun yourself

>>32504
>>32505
Crt is for oldGODS and trannies just ruined it
>>32509
No I just wanted a crt since I think they're cool, thanks for the tips
>>32510
Thanks

>but none of those retards say IT TAKES 1/10 OF A SECOND FOR THE PHOSPHOR TO STOP GLOWING
>BUT WAIT this is where you realize most CRT's are fucking garbage. under 70Hz the screen flicker is noticeable to pretty much anyone and if you're sensitive, will cause you a headache
These are for the same reason, its a trade off

>>32529
Its why TV CRTs don't flicker despite being 60 or 50 hz

>>32510
Trinitrons are a meme. Retroniggers will tell you that CRTs have built in antialiasing and that the softness is what makes pixel art and low resolutions good, and then turn around and glaze the technology with the least of those. The only thing they are good at is sharp text (always disable subpixel antialiasing btw) and brighter images that are less gray in lighting. It makes them better for productivity and living rooms but neither make sense in the year of our Lord 2026.

>>32509
>Don't pay money for it, look in scrapyards or if your relative works in an old office/tech company ask them if their IT guys have some still lying around
Good luck gramps, this was maybe a thing 15 years ago, but now if they have been keep its because they are museum pieces or someone like you uses them

>PC CRT's are much crisper and not interlaced
Sharpness depends on the technology and interlacing almost entirely depends on the signal you provide. PC CRTs almost never tried to convert progressive to interlaced but I think some TVs did.
Interlacing is not a bad thing either, its just situational. You can get higher resolutions or refresh rates and it helps with ghosting as a pseudo black frame insertion.

>and no, you have 0% chance of repairing the electron gun yourself
Geometry adjustments are not that hard especially on post 2000 models with OSDs. Its becoming more mandatory as the electronics age. The only thing you have to worry about is older ewaste tier monitors with no degauss circuitry and the phosphors being burnt or cathodes being oxidized.

>new OLED, current gen has literally only upsides compared to any other display technology, yes even CRT's
Falsenvke, you can't run games at 480p or literally any other resolution and still have them look good. Plus good luck getting a nice OLED with decent response times and resolution to make shaders look good (they don't) for less than 4 overpriced FB listings. Granted they are really nice for native content and productivity

The CRT cons aren't worth the one true upside (motion clarity) unless you're genuinely poor. And if you are, stop trying to glorify CRTs. Just accept that every display technology sucks in their own ways and pick your poison quietly.