>>4345796lol i've had sex too, obviously it feels good. i'm not against pleasure, i just don't worship it. i've given in to lust myself, but why would i make my appetites the measure of what's good? thats just being ruled by whatever desire happens to possess you and i dont want that. i believe in christ because i recognize my own fallen nature, not because i pretend to be above it. christ died for my sins, but that doesn't mean i should glorify them. there's nothing particularly strong or liberated about being unable to say no to your primal desires.