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>>4304350One sunni hadith from a guy that lived 250 years after muhammad died says this
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defending inbred child rapist warlord…
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The sad thing is when Sunnis cope with their muhaddiths being degenerates and liars by conveniently switching to shi'ite chronology and sources when they get exposed
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>>4304324 (OP)post sources from hadith and quran because scholarly opinions are beneath those two
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aisha was 9
get over it
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>>4304522You really seem to want aisha to be 9 for some reason
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Victoria stop.
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>>4304534What a retarded argument. Imagine a pedo using it:
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>>4304538Is this a kikejeet reference?
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>>4304549According to the chronology, she was 32 at consummation, according to some sunnigger that was born 200 years after her, she was 9
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>>4304586The ages you mentioned come from sources below the hadith
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These same sources also say muhammad recited satanic spells if u wanna push them up above
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>>4304640>Hearsay of hearsay of hearsayIsmail ibn Jafar was not an Imam in twelver shi'ism. He was is Ismailism but Ismailis don't even use Al kafi as a source, it's not one of their texts. Even if this was actually stated, it doesn't hold any significance in either sect. Only imams are infallible. This is why most Shi'ites do in fact disagree with the Sunni narrative of Aisha's age of marriage and consummation
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>>4304730Why did you say it was only one sunni hadith when the report still exists in a major Twelver collection and was graded sahih by classical Shias then? It shows that the idea of consummation around age 10 was known and circulating early enough to be recorded without immediate rejection. Also The same hadith is recorded by al-Tusi(twelver) in the Tahdhib al-Ahkam, not only in Al-Kafi.
Also is it a Sunni or a Shia who has the report of Aisha's sister being that old in your OP?
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This is innacurate as surah al Bakari is seen with more authority
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>>4304825>It shows that the idea of consummation around age 10 was known and circulating early enough to be recorded without immediate rejection.No, because it is one statement given by someone who is not an Imam, in an enormous collection of hadiths. It's not a legitimate ruling, so why throw out a whole collection over a statement which is not even a ruling?
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>>4304863You're still only addressing the authority of the report for rulings, which I already conceded isn't binding. That wasn't the point. The same report appears in Al-Kafi AND in al-Tusi's Tahdhib al-Ahkam (one of the four books). Classical Twelver compilers recorded the idea of consummation at ~10 without rejecting it as false or fabricated. That shows the young-age account was circulating early in Shia sources too, not invented later by Sunnis.
You skipped the question. The report about Asma being ten years older – is that from a Sunni or Shia source in your original post?
Also, btw, tbe Tartib al-Musnad has that same hadith as Sunnis.
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>>4304355Even if this is true, Muslims still support child marriage and pdophilia
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>>4304905My chronology does include Sunni sources but at the end of the day there is no actual Shi'a report of the age of Aisha, of course. Aisha herself is seen as a dubious figure
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>>4304997Even though Aisha and Sunni scholarship is so unreliable, the secondary Sunni reports about her sister are solid evidence i guess.