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this will just restart the cycle
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Wipe tower rothbardism is a larp
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>>4279957The Whig Theory of History is wrong, but history isn't purely cyclical either.
>>4279963Wipe tower like wiping my butthole after making a big long poop that's like a tower.
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>>4279959Before I do, i'm not trying to insult you here, don't crashout on me.
>We need to bring [the pre industrial revolution] ideology back.But what would a "liberal state under the rule of law" obeying an "individualist minimum" look like? It would mean no funding for Planned Parenthood, no welfare payments to pregnant teenage black soon-to-be baby mamas, no Department of Education or state-level education commissions, unrestricted confessional schooling, no anti-discrimination law, no community development corporations housing activist sinecures, no Federal Reserve, no labor protections for civil servants, strict nondelegation, no public sector unions, no foreign aid, no grants for NPR, etc. By any measure, liberalism in its strict sense is an objectively counterrevolutionary tendency. And this is so for the simple reason that "real liberalism" now is the ancien regime
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liberalism is a cancer to society, both modern and old
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>>4279986Spencerian-Sumnerian social darwinism is the purist form of left-wing politics.
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>>4280013Notice that I didn't even call you right wing though
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How can I help?
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>>4280036Are you suggesting that us leftistbros are the real reactionaries?
>>4280045Enlisting in the Brazilian military to fight for the revolutionary vanguard.
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>>4280071No, I said classical liberalism today is counter-revolutionary and wanting to bring it back is such tendency, why the term "conservative" and classical liberalism is found joint nowadays. Leftists have been occupied by other stuff obviously
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>>4280090>I said classical liberalism today is counter-revolutionary and wanting to bring it back is such tendencyThe trouble is that what overturned liberal petit bourgeois revolutions wasn't workers' revolution but instead conservative reactions.
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>>4280109The American Revolution was quickly thwarted by its own class of Mensheviks and Thermidors: the Federalists.
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>>4280109great conservative reactionaries known as neocons
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>>4280119Victorian Britain experienced an era of liberal reforms, but even these were relatively moderate compared to the demands of past Radical Whigs; Commonwealthmen; and Levellers. The Manchester Liberals, while laudable in many ways, were held back by a visceral hostility directed towards the burgeoning labor movement, even opposing the collective laissez-faire tradition.
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why do you still hold to the constitution party larp if you are against consevatism?
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Christian right[2]
Christian reconstructionism[3]
Ultraconservatism[4]
Paleoconservatism[5]
Social conservatism[2]
Fiscal conservatism[2]
wow
how left wing ethnic autonomist libertarian
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>>4280159you aren't communitarian
you have everything against us and our beliefs nigger stfu
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just look at the shit you post
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>>4280169shut the fuck up nigger you are literaly african
ima mirk your motherfucking ass if i see that picture of the green could
why are libertarians so much into fart shit smh
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>>4280109As you have told me before, "left wing" means egalitarianism, we live in a much more equal world now relative to a hypothetical Spencerian-Sumnerian social darwinism(what would happen to all those nigganinos?), within country UK for example
The West has an explicit codex for non-discrimination against minorities that it spreads globally in the form of global organizations like the UN, aswell as welfare states that exceed the amount of taxes that they collect enough to offset huge deficits to fund them.
Spencer complaining about the State becoming involved with securing jobs for the poor and the dysfunctional and this being championed by the New Liberals was for what? The new regime was an adaption, it wasn't "reactionaries" taking a look at feudalism and taking aspects out of it because of petty hubris, a lot of it was an adaptation of the same christian derived egalitarianism seized from the englitenment. In the same way "liberalism" was in large part a "reaction" to the excesses of Bonapartism and Jacobinism
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>>4280189you know nothing
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>>4280189a centralized authority can represent local communities better than an arbitrarily made decentralized one
fascism represented the people and its communities better than the previous goverment
the french monarchy represented local and regional cultures and identities better than the false nationalism of the republic
same for the brazilian republic and the new state under vargas who promoved regionalisms and cultural identities as true expresions of the brazilian ethos and whole
same for our own military dictatorship
isn't american nationalism within the same scope?
aren't texans, one of the most regionaly culturaly rich state s yet one of the most nationalistic ones, also a good example?
fuck youself
your ideology has bringed us nothing but striffe and hardship
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>>4280232I know how to fuck.
>>4280251A series of unqualified proclamations and then an absurd assessment of Texas as
>one of the most regionally culturally rich statesThe culture of Texas is oil, postwar American conservatism, and Mexicans.
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>>4280278learn how to shut the fuck up or kill yourself
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>>4280278>>4280189what do you mean by "decentralized authority"?
expeficy your words
>>4280291what the fuck are you talking about
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No more nametoilet
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>>4280291i can't even start to comprehend to who you are talking about
are you calling vargas a economicaly liberal zionist?
medici?
arlindo veiga?
plinio salgado?
jackson de vigueredo?
oliveira viana?
i trully do not know what you mean by that
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localism/municipalism/communitarianism worked side by side with authoritarianism in brazil idk whats up with kikemutts but thats our political tradition
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>>4280293Confederation or dual federalism, referendums, bicameral legislature, decentralized judicial review, a directorial executive, a general principle of subsidiarity, local militias instead of a standing army, and a general principle of subsidiarity.
>>4280296Yes less avatarurinal.
>>4280313Your romanticized municipal past was a system of localized tyrannies, a patchwork of slaver societies. Ethics aside, that system is why much of your country is black.
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>>4280271I don't think Spencer was a reactionary, I clearly said that to tie it to the more egalitarian shift in attitude of the parties in the UK, aswell as the founding of the Fabians from some of the Radical wing of the Liberals.
Also you know Spencer had a revision of his views on suffrage, et al, right? Literally, In 1892 in the Social Statics he shortened the women's-rights chapter and adjusted the political conclusions accordingly.
A quote:
>…while I should advocate the extension of the suffrage to women as an ultimate measure, I do not approve of it as an immediate measure, or even as a measure to be shortly taken. … The giving of political power to women would, I believe, restrict, and indeed diminish, liberty in two ways. It would strengthen the hands of authority, both political and ecclesiastical; for women, as a mass, are habitually on the side of authority.I guess Spencer was an idiot though and he thought liberalism had ever existed before the 1860s…
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>>4280304I thought you were sad Ballssackonaro lost.
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>>4280342im sad the left won
>>4280337slavery was imported from big cities by a small jewish trading class and eventualy it became such tradition that people didn't want to get over it
slavery also happened in the uk and us
fuck, the confederates were all for slaveery
and no
we aren't blackk
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>>4280353i like militias and subsidiary
maybe federalism but only under a strong autocratic state
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aldoe abolishing armies is retarded the country would get aped to death
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Wagie snca, just move into the woods and be free
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>>4280400ta bom osvaldo oliveira shapiro