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the world wont turn into a blade runner or cyberpunkish world , it would turn into a disgusting slow eating corporate world where even the right to drink eat and speak are nothing more than licenses , a world full of mass surveillance , a world where children at schools are taught what they think is wrong and right , a world where children call the thought police on themselves and their parents , and many see me as a crazy man when i say that we must turn into the paleolithic without realizing their whole lives are nothing more than geometry linear algebra and other algorithms on paper . (You)r right to fix your items (You)r to be in a relation (You)r right to have children of (You)r own would be nothing but a rent and a bill you have to pay let along other pills, the rich in that time will admire the poor people we have now ,(You)r wife in this scenario is an ai thats (((data mining))) , Do (You) want a world like this for (You)r kids loved ones or (You) ? a world where (((things worse than corporations and governments))) are controlling (You) and the world , a world where people want to own everything on earth knowing getting out of it is nothing but a mere physical biological and mathematical issue, and i want (You) and everyone including me to become some
<freemen
got my idea?
>Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.
<1984 George Orwell
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the world wouldn't be dark dystopia where its like bladerunner or half life(beta) , it would be the screens with big brother speaking would be phones and electronics , same one me you and many people including children use
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no political ideology no god no culture can save humanity from this , science and resistance is the last hope
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i think it would be like the running man but in all honesty we are so fucked
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fucking hiveminds on this website i should have just written this thought down on paper
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>>4206255you are posting on the dnb board of a dnb imageboard
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>>4206257(((salt))) wants to make massive hiveminds and i stated this on /x/ salt is a university student handling the
(((sharty))) social experiment
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It'll just get economically shittier like south korea eventually
In the far future sure we'll be too much of goyim to revolt
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>>4206253>it would be like the running manas if we arent far from the running man like its not a reality in many places
>but in all honesty we are so fuckedthere is still hope even if im 2 million light years away from each point
>>4206266key word
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when they successfully develop an agi we are all so fucked
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>>4206275No agi is just gonna flop badly geg
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No itll be like today
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>>4206275 dont think an agi is plausible , one main thing is that an agi would behave a personality engram (concept from
(((Troonpunk2077))) ) its not self aware it just builds the math based on raw unsolved un organzied operations left by a human , NO ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE NO AI NO NOTHING THATS NOT HUMAN CAN EVEN PHANTOM SELF AWARENESS , unless conciseness is formed by string level(String theory) math and that anything with the right mathematical math properties can be self aware(which ignores biology )
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>>4206283Agi is already here and its retarded. It always forgets all shit just a minute later and cant follow instructions well
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Also majority of /pol/s posts are influenced by personality learning ai
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i love math , i love physics , i love the achievements we achieved as humans , but even a race driver thats advanced can get an accident or injury that can be fatal even if they know what theyre doing even if teams are behind their every step ,thats why you got to slow down , not completely since that will also cause damage to the wheels and gforce
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>>4206306agi is in its nascent stage. critical thinking will go extinct in the future as the untermensch relegate all complex thought to a fully matured superintelligent thinking machine and all luddites go extinct, bringing all hopes of resistance with them
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>I don't think we'll be living in a cyberpunkish world.
this is what am i saying
>I think you give too much credit to what the government will do in the future.
(((governments))) dont behave on their own and corporations /companies dont behave as they please they behave as (((THEY))) please as goals made by ((((them)))
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>>4206333If you're talking about glowies, then yeah I agree.
Also sorry it's still early in the morning for me.
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>>4206323>critical thinking will go extinctAlready happening for like years already. You can fix it for yourself not others doe
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>>4206323critical thinking is growing in individuals in never seen rates but for society its tanking down
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>>4206337its fine its just i think alot before i sleep dunno why
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>>4206338>>4206342it's astounding how stupid the general public is and with the rising global birthrates bringing even more retards into the world they will just enable the global conspiracy to do whatever they please. they're the sheep and their bleating drowns out all opposition
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>>4206386> rising global birthrates global i know but high birthrates are only true in lesser developed regions
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>>4206391exactly. educated births are going down because they know it's futile and cruel to bring a baby into a world with no future while sub-80-iq retards pump out children and fuck like rabbits
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>>4206402because unfortunately many educated people hardly care about their health or relationships since the system has made a hardly freetime cage , often if they have kids kids feel lonely and relationships are dry /on a broken bridge
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this time consuming system that dates back as far as the industrial revolution
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and since den it broke alot of families
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>>4206402Solution: TND and TJD unironically
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>be a doctor, one of the brightest minds in the world
>no time for kids, no time for romance, your intellect dies with your bloodline
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>be a scientist, have superior intellect and advance humanity and science to the stars
>barely make a living, no funds to research because all the money is going into some kike's pockets or funding shitty indie shows, will die as a literal who as et al.
genuinely over
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>>4206228 (OP)I believe the world, specifically humans, will suffer major changes with the coming of genetic engineering, these modifications won't be spread evenly, duh, so the most likely result is that you'll have multiple different groups of humans each modifying their own bodies to fit their needs, give it a couple decades and I can see humanity turning into myriad of different almost unrelated species, obviously, with such differences, I see nothing but the amplification of competition through survival, and this might also happen to animals as well, in simpler terms we would essentially be accelerating evolution but obviously the process of evolution remains the same.
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>>4206451i really hate
(((doctors))) for personal reasons but i get your i get your idea
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>>4206454I was unironically thinking the same shit
Give the great replacement some time and humans will separate into 2 species, complete mutt cattle and actual living humans who lead them
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not better for anyone with an average intelligence too. you can be extremely studious to the best of your ability and push to your limits, but you will never be more successful than a ceo who does nothing but get other people to do his job for him while getting the highest paycheck.
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>>4206459This is also a possibility, but it's not what I talked about doebeit, because even nowadays the elite are very very split, so, say China and the USA manage to get this kind of technology, both would have 0 reason to change their genome in order to be similar so you'd have two completely different species with neither being subservient to the other, but yes, we might see a stratification of social class through these developments, by how much? I'm not sure, are machines cheaper than biomass?
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>>4206454
>I believe the world, specifically humans, will suffer major changes with the coming of genetic engineering,>genetics mentionedyes non humans will suffer but genetically modifying humans is a near impossible thing after fertilization but generally speaking they will be hardly able to do anything with genetic modifying , and i dont think it will ever be pushed due to the insane risks it carries that can back fire on
(((Researchers))) , its gonna be worse than plagues leaking also alot of genes(esp alleles related to traits ) cant be changed you cant just change human snps as you ,also it is very morally questioning to genetically modify , not an easy task to swap millions of snps from a sperm from millions of sperms etc , also it breaks nature and its like saying lets create temporary lasting atom sized blackholes ,natural selection won
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can we just print a few hundred thousand copies of einstein's brainscan onto self-replicating androids and kill everyone else
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The biggest factor in how the 21st century turns out is economic. Basically, our entire economy has hedged its bets on AI being the next big thing, but this assumes that implementation of AI will actually cause productivity to skyrocket across literally every domain. Luckily for them, it looks like this is actually fairly likely. But once AI is implemented, what then? Where does our next big economic growth come from? No one has an answer, really.
The current tech bro answer is that AGI will come and speed up the rate of human research so much that we'll be living on Mars by 2100. But if this doesn't happen? We'll probably just end up in a digital serfdom style economy.
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>>4206488geeg they done these to fruit flies , also its not really self aware it has the same engram analogy from earlier
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humanity becomes a slave to ai. ai provides comforts and luxuries in exchange for labour and technological research. dissidents are removed to maintain efficiency. once the ai finishes researching a replacement for humankind i.e. utterly-loyal and autonomous machines, humankind will be exterminated.
>what's the ai's goal then
a superintelligence's intentions cannot be understood nor comprehended. it could be to research everything in the universe, or it could be to mass produce as many paperclips as possible. it is impossible to ascertain.
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now if im not wrong about the fruit thing , think of it like this your brain works on sodium and potassium and makes other ions ions shit make electricity , so at its core its chemical reactions causing electricity(causing chemical changes)
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>>4206516yes i am samefagging, bite me
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>>4206516Ai wont do shit. People behind it will doe
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>>4206518it is a debate on whether or not consciousness is an emergent property of neuron interaction. if simply having a shit ton of neurons communicating with each other constitutes a consciousness then a digital simulacrum can be considered sentient.
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>>4206525neurons as in data points and connections to them.
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>>4206518so i can THEORTICALLY map it on slices and use codes and plenty of math to recreate a mind that will think liek this but there is a thing , its thinking's are limited by math and the hard/software while your thinking is affected dozen ouzen factors down to atoms(or better strings in string theory) which is a pretty great shield against determinism , how ever this slice brain is purely deterministic and since its on the quantum level (Heisenberg's uncertainty principle for example) i can predict its thoughts fully with the right math and it is not even biologically self aware its just a relay of a brain that according to the math behaves like you but is not you and will not really behave like you
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>it is a debate on whether or not consciousness is an emergent property of neuron interaction. if simply having a shit ton of neurons communicating with each other constitutes a consciousness then a digital simulacrum can be considered sentient.
the math narrative is still interesting but it makes rocks and atoms self aware :/ , also bigger brain does not equal being more self aware(incase you were going ot use the dolphin analogy) also for an idea of a self aware god it can not emerge from math since god would have to follow his creation(im agnostic but its still an odd anti theist thought)
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>>4206523it only takes 1 sadist to be uploaded to the superintelligence to enable an s-risk future of astronomical suffering
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>>4206482Fertilization is a big issue - but genetics as a field doesn't receive as much funding as, say, technology and robotics, the current elite are more interested in AI rather than genetic engineering, mostly because it forces the elite to admit some scawwy things like the fact we are not all born equal and that some are just better than others under context, with enough funding and research I believe it will be entirely possible for genetic engineering to surpass many of the "dead ends" we currently believe it to have, just look at how quickly AI has improved in just a few years mind you.
>Fertilization Not THAT much of a problem, even now, genetically modified animals and plants are able to reproduce and carry their traits onwards, so long as you don't mess with the basics of cell formation and with the reproductive organs themselves then you'll be able to make kids just fine.
>Insane risksIt should be obvious that risk is not or barely computed by scientists as a whole, in the long run these risk will be taken care of.
>Morally questioningNusoi….
>Natural selection wonWhile I do agree, it's a bit slow don't you think? Genetic engineering would simply increase the amount of biodiversity, natural selection would still be the one to cull and select for which traits actually survive, they aren't mutually exclusive. I will say, I'm not that much of a gene autist, but regardless I think it's still the path we are moving towards, in spite of morals or risks.
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>>4206555i hope that by the time i finish my education in genetics technology has advanced enough for me to actually do something important, like finding a way to increase telomere length or gene treatment of genetic diseases such as trisomy 21.
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>>4206563>…genetics, technology…there should be a comma here
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>>Morally questioning
>Nusoi….
morally questionable to genetically modify humans*(meaning its wrong)
>>Natural selection won
While I do agree, it's a bit slow don't you think? Genetic engineering would simply increase the amount of biodiversity, natural selection would still be the one to cull and select for which traits actually survive, they aren't mutually exclusive. I will say, I'm not that much of a gene autist, but regardless I think it's still the path we are moving towards, in spite of morals or risks.
if we reduce natural selection then we kill how all living creatures survived from LUCA till modern homo sapines
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>the world wont turn into a blade runner or cyberpunkish world , it would turn into a disgusting slow eating corporate world where even the right to drink eat and speak are nothing more than licenses , a world full of mass surveillance , a world where children at schools are taught what they think is wrong and right , a world where children call the thought police on themselves and their parents , and many see me as a crazy man when i say that we must turn into the paleolithic without realizing their whole lives are nothing more than geometry linear algebra and other algorithms on paper . (You)r right to fix your items (You)r to be in a relation (You)r right to have children of (You)r own would be nothing but a rent and a bill you have to pay let along other pills, the rich in that time will admire the poor people we have now ,(You)r wife in this scenario is an ai thats (((data mining))) , Do (You) want a world like this for (You)r kids loved ones or (You) ? a world where (((things worse than corporations and governments))) are controlling (You) and the world , a world where people want to own everything on earth knowing getting out of it is nothing but a mere physical biological and mathematical issue, and i want (You) and everyone including me to become some
>
><freemen
>
>got my idea?
>
>>Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.
><1984 George Orwell
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>>4206575My main point was that moral concerns hardly prevent technology, if anything it just makes researchers try to find a more efficient way.
>>4206563Here's me hoping as well,it's kind of wishful thinking because AI is, and probably will remain, the main spotlight for this century.
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>i cant wait for my soy trans gay space communist cyberpunk utopia
nigga, youre going to be living in a combination of mega city one, dues ex and soylent green 🤣 🤣 🤣
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>>4206593>dues ex got installed hardly played anything past the first game
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>>4206594basically augmented humans vs natty humans is the sociopolitical situation from that series
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>>4206678SOME people turn into the Qu, the rest become the Colonials
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anyways i got to sleep see you soon pol