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Taxonomy has a lot of exceptions in a lot of places, it's not easy making rules and try to apply them to an absolute, especially to something as wildly different as species, that being said, yes, a species is defined as an organism that can reproduce and create fertile offspring with another, by this logic Polar Bears and Grizzly Bears who fit the criteria would be of the same species, however, it doesn't take a genius to realize the wildly different behaviours and phenotypes from both which is why they are counted as different species but can make fertile offspring, also I just hate that nasal sounding pretentious voice this food has.
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Type of shit one guy I know would send me
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>>4165013Yeah they're fucking retarded and also smug while being completely wrong, taxonomy has no weight, it's just a loosely put together set of rules and classifications that can easily be broken with a few awry mutations, obviously, as humans, we want to make things simple and easy to understand, but ultimately taxonomy is just a Sisyphean task
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It's ironic how a Brazilian is the one most invested in this thread whilst cumskin mleechas don't say anything of substance
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>>4165043I second this. But the reason that is denied is because the modern egalitarian thinking compels most people to view us as "one human race" which avoids the yucky implications of the opposite being true. People really stop thinking about biology when it comes to humans because that suggests that Eugenics are based in rationalism and not just fascist chuddy nonsence which "I fucking love science" crowd is afraid of. Also her voice is fucking annoying.
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niggers and whites can reproduce with each other. What comes after is a mutated racemixed baby. What that really entails is that the genome is different enough
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>>4165067I'm just autistic over biology and evolution
>>4165188Yes, I didn't really get into the whole reason as to why modern leftitards deny science, this is a pretty good answer to that, with that in mind, I'd like to propose a little mental exercise for you or anyone else, why has the west willingly adopted the egalitarian mindset? Where did it originate from and how has it persisted so far?
>INB4 JewsI'd enjoy something a little more nuanced than that.
>>4165195I'd like to point out that behavioural differences are the most acute between two different organisms, this is a given, you have a lot more differences in behavior even between genetically related groups, since the chemical reaction for the thought process are much more fragile and easy to change than someone's appearance, the result of this is that, when two physically different organism are able to mate, the offspring is completely fucking retarded, because while in body they are OK for the most part, their mind is split into two completely different behavioural patterns (not a good thing at all) this applies to mutts of any kind.
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>words words words
I'm sorry in advance
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>>4165334Hybrids are sterile. Nature detects that such racemixing is wrong and end the bloodline of those mutts on spot. Then why it doesn't happen the same with Human mutts??
For a context Humans and Chimps cannot reproduce with each other even though their DNA is 99.8% identical.
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>>4165394Polar and grizzly bears both have 74 chromosomes. Hybrids bears can freely reproduce with either species.
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>>4165394I explained that race is sub species, but you must also understand that the rules used to define species are prone to exceptions, look up the hybrid of a polar and grizzly bear, it is fertile and yet both parents are seen as different species, besides, something like a Chihuahua + Pitbull mutt, while the same "species", still causes almost certain death to the female Chihuahua due to how large the pitbull fetus becomes, human mutts come out with severe issues and as such are supposed to get wiped out under natural circumstances, you're treating as if it's some active force that makes hybrids become infertile because mixing is le bad or something to that effect.
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>>4165394It is actually not uncommon for interspecies hybrids to be fertile. (You) would have known this if (You) read the article
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She looks like the screaming mummy
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Horses can breed with donkeys that means they're the same species
>But mules can't have offspring
And mixed Africans/Europeans often can't take marrow transplants from either parent because their genetics differentiate from the child too much
Also
>No, people with different colours and features arnt different species, why don't you understand this?
>No, I won't explain why, it just is! you seriously lack critical thinking.
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Race is snca
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>>4165394Neanderthals are considered a different species and there is proof of Neanderthals breeding with humans
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>>4165501There's a case to be made that human races are ecotypes
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>>4165501Same with all species of cats. Reproduction isn't the only criteria.
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>>4165510Anything but admitting you're wrong
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>>4165510Subspecies fits the bill far more, ecotypes don't go as far as the same ecosystem, like one frog which is adapted to living more outside water and another which is adapted to living more inside water, both are still extremely similar, subspecies is for traits that differ on the geographic level, the climate and environmenal differences of the siberian tundras against sub-saharan savannahs cannot be compared to a fucking pond.
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>>4165593And it comes from a sunni muslim, pottery
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>>4165589what about having a higher IQ on average?
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>>4165589All human experience shows otherwise.
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>>4165598I am not Muslim I am proudly christian catholic
>>4165599Better country=smarter people
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>>4165600Wrap your head around this insane concept, believing in race as a biological reality does not equate to believing in universal standards, the whole point I've been making in this thread is that speaking of absolutes in terms of biology is not a good idea, you sir have a severely straw manned vision of race which I simply cannot argue with in good faith.
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>>4165604Science made by Ilovehitler67 from Mumbai India
>>4165606Do you even know what a straw men is ? Because that's certainly not how it works you must present me your argument first
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>>4165611Dude, you have a completely wrong idea of race, how am I supposed to make an argument with you?
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>>4165611You started with a strawman toughbeit
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>>4165634Fuck you, I'm raping you immediately.
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>>4165642So you make a nonsensical claim and expect serious arguments?
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>>4165642You can acknowledge that human population across the globe have genetic differences that influence their appearance and behaviour patterns, without disliking them because of it.
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>>4165589>Race is fake because I'm a blind niggerAppearance is only the surface of race, race affects far more than just looks, given it affects
>Musculature>Fat storage>Neurons>HormonesEtc etc. The differences can be countless, this assumes race is solely superficial.
>Better or worseOf course the retarded sandnigger applies absolutes to everything, no, no single trait can be said to be better or worse, only under context can such a thing be said
>Polar bears are superior to rhinos SPECIFICALLY under a polar environment>Rhinos are superior to polar bears SPECIFICALLY under a savannah-like environment This is basic.
>>4165600Ad hominem does not invalidate my greater argument, do not excuse a lack of a response because I was being mean or whatever.
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Know a normgroid nigga who used this typa argument once and he went faced away from me when i used a different analogy with dog breeds. Well i do hope he got through more information and becomes le keyed
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>>4165497Race is seca doe
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>>4165642Your interpretation of race is flawed and wrong, it's not what I and, I think, most of the people here believe, by attacking and saying that is what we believe in you are, at best, making a baseless and erroneous assumption, and, at worst, you are straw manning our position.
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>>4165666But those differences that exist today are basically what race means. Saying race doesn't exist is like saying aborigines and swedish are indistinguishable. You can acknowledge race but decide not to be racist.
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>>4165647You attacked my argument without giving any critiques of it which means you can't debunk it aperently
>>4165674Now this is a strawmen I didn't say half of this please just address the point
>>4165675I mean if you want to go at it this way then sure but that doesn't mean that is the right stance
>>4165674That's just a scientific fact lol we all evolved from Africans
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>>4165683I'm less then a quarter ethnically German and offically persecuted by the Krautsissy ZOG
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>>4165666Haven't humans originating from Africa already being disproved
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>>4165605dont you think smarter people actually build better civilizations in the first place?
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>I'm less then a quarter ethnically german
Holy rapefuge then just kys fag, no wonder your such cucked and zogged
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>>4165691Civilisation was created by brown peepul doe
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>>4165651Yes i will dislike them because pf it
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>>4165690No where did you hear that from lol
>>4165691No because then you would assume with that that Muslims are smart because they had great civilizations and where advanced in a lot of things it actually comes from luck in war if you look at it historically
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>>4165690Idk, they find human remains farther north, oldest are from Morocco now, so there may be survivorship bias that remains only survived in dry places. I wouldn't be surprised if humans were from the near east, but all the Y-lineages can be traced to africa.
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>>4165684>my argumentNo such thing. Define "better".
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>>4165694I'm German, Dutch, Italian, Portuguese, Japanese, Hungarian, Serb, Belgian and French
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>>4165704Morroco is in Africa
>>4165706People who speak about race purity when its time to take a DNA test:
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>>4165666no No NOOOO, PLEASE WHAT IS IT WITH YOU NIGGER NOT UNDERSTANDING HOW EVOLUTION WORKS! This shit is teaches in fucking middle school.
>We all adapt to the same factorsNOOOOO You do not "adapt" to an environment, this applies it's an action taken by the organism, (for the most part) the organism is static, a nigger will not become white because he suddenly got brought into a snowy region, this means no matter what the nigger will be foreign to that environment, his offspring will be foreign, until his foreign genetics are completely diluted by the majority population. HE. WILL. NOT. BELONG.
>>4165684The fuck do you mean straw man? I wasn't even fucking attacking any argument or point you made retard, did I use words that were too difficult to understand?
For your sake, I'll simplify it, you made the assumption that race
>Doesn't go beyond superficial traits>Doesn't exist universal superiority >Is therefore "fake"The first assumption is wrong, the second is correct, and the last one is a retarded conclusion, what point are you even trying to make?
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>>4165698not all browns are equal. my distaste for arabs still standing, africans are much stupider.
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>>4165730Half of your country is brown
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>>4165730What about mi saar
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>>4165721Yes, but it already throws the east african origin of humanity into jeopardy. Now imagine if older remains were found in spain or Turkey. It is not static and all of that is just hypothesis because only a tiny fraction of remains gets discovered, in places where they can be preserved, like a dry desert and not a wet forest.
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>>4165722You said a lot of things can you back then up with evidence?
>>4165730I would be honored if Americans hated me as much as they hate arabs
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>>4165736Persians, iraqis and egyptians are brown doe
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>>4165737It's around 14% of the country.
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>>4165740"Imagine"
Can't take you argument seriously man unless we actually have real evidence on this that's still my stand point where it comes to this
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>>4165747Germany is 90% white Amerimutts are 50% white.
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>>4165744In pre islamic conquering they weren't , and yes in the begining the egyptians were black
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>>4165758Science says Ancient Egyptians were genetically closer to modern Arabs then niggers or Camskeens doe
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>>4165750I said imagine because consequent discoveries can change how we view things we figured to be unshakable truth. It would be stupid to say that humans are 100% from africa. We simply can't know for sure
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>>4165758Persians were always Zagros niggas, closest pipo to sumerians are marsh arabs and assyrian niggas also still exist today. None of which are white.
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>>4165764Well let me know when that happens but rn its all just a theory a game theory
>>4165766Southern Europeans are not white
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>>4165743Ok, don't chicken out however, I don't need to explain my first claim of how evolution works, come on, this shit is explained in middle school, I'm not here to be teacher.
>Doesn't go beyond superficial traitsThis is obvious, look at the overrepresentation of Africans in sports, what gives? Well they have musculature more suited for explosive and quick movement, that's why they excel in those fields, how about asians being stereotypically assumed to be good at mathematics
>Le stereotype muh social constructStereotypes do not spawn out of thin air, they come from persistent patterns and to say otherwise requires proof of your own, furthermore it's proven that behaviour is much easier to change than appearance, if something has different appearance thing it almost definitely acts differently, this is because behaviour is much more delicate, with all the ways neurons need to develop and whatnot, with how complicated it is it's easy to change and mutate, far easier than something like skin color or how your body builds itself…
>Universal superiority doesn't existI agreed with you here, relative superiority does exist however.
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>>4165775>Southern Europeans are not whiteBecause they mixed with Arabs, Turks and other forgein peoples
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>>4165739arent you asian?
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>>4165777Okay that still means they aren't white lol
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>>4165778You don't consider me a raisinskin despite being in Indonesia?
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>>4165737country is 60% white though? also my country is like 20* the size of yours. theres a significant barrier between me and the undesirables, a luxury not afforded to most euros because theyre cramped in 'walkable' cities.
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>>4165784Is white even a relevant word outside a colonial context? Wasn't that word invented for Europeans to distinguish themselves from their injun and black subjects?
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>>4165788idk its not a place i even think of, ive probably confused it for india several times so sorry in hindsight for that
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>>4165776First argument is literally build on Africans run fast theredo which I cannot take seriously second is just you saying shit without a proof last one I agree with you some indevuals are better then most and that doesn't have to do with race
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>>4165802I'm so happy xir, not in a gay way. I also am a Muslim doebeit they could also be as progressive as KKKristBROS in a non overly faggy way
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>>4165797Idk but i don't want to be associated with southern Europeans that look more like Turks then me so I am good with the term white replacing the term European
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>>4165807african muscle structure is quite different from the average euros.
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Why CAN'T I make an argument built on Africans run fast? Why CAN'T you take it seriously?
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>>4165814Okay ? That doesn't hurt my argument though I said people adapted to different factors which made them slightly different and what we all adapt the same to these factors
>>4165817Yeah just ignore my counter argument that also works
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>>4165825Explain this image because you kind of lost me
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>>4165831This image is so Redditpilled
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>>4165828at what point do these adaptations become different species?
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>>4165841first joke in the series is flat out saying nigger for the whole episode. reddit isnt allowed to watch sunny
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>>4165835Europeans descent from 3 core populations.
Indo Europeans - WSH
Hunter gatherer (EHG,WHG,SHG,BHG) - HG
And early european farmers - EEF
These are the groups that define the european populations. Therefore, anyone with ancestral populations outside that group, would naturally be less "white".
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>>4165852yes saar thats why indians are actually de trve aaaaaryanz saar
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>>4165852At least that is my attempt to construct a coherent definition. But people can apply it more narrowly, like only north sea pipo are white or more broadly, all western eurasians are white. I tried to find a plausible definition
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>>4165845Strawmen please address my argument correctly
>>4165846When the genetic person between two guys is as great as the genatic distance between a homo sapein and a guy
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>>4165874What's your argument?
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>>4165867Only blonde haired blue eyed people are white the rest looks like Turks
>>4165877I already said it go back and reread it and don't green arrow my argument with doctored stuff from you to make my argument seem weaker
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pilpul masterclass
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>>4165874you seriously believe there isnt a difference of significant enough magnitude to make you and an abbo different species?
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>>4165894My general argument was that people evolved from Africa and spread out all over the planet and each person developed different characterstics from different factors that's why people who live closer to each other look alike because they all experienced these factors the same
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Stupid site
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>>4165884That is another, personal definition one can have by all means. But people be of different pigmentation and belong to the same population, even have the same parents.
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>>4165903Not right now but it can happen in the future only time could tell
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>>4165908Ok. Well you're correct, how does that prove race is fake?
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>>4165921Because all humans came from one source and we all developed exactly the same ? I mean yeah put in different factors and we will develop different traits but that means that we all humans adapt the same to these factors
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>>4165911it seems to me like youd never be satisfied with that time coming and would deny it regardless
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>>4165910my older brother looks hella swarthy compared to the rest of us. its like all the featherjeet DNA from way back in the civil war poured into him specifically.
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>>4165940No that would be like denying actual science at that point like everyone would agree with this bro even Reddit
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Is having Neanderthal and Denisovan admixture better and aura farming unlike having Homo Hablilis and Homo Erectus admixture o algo?
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>>4165937All living things are the same by that logic, in fact fuck taxonomy that shit doesn't exist… No, a table and a chair are different things regardless if they both came from a tree, once a chair is made you can't turn it into a table, same thing vice versa.
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>>4165975I don't think you understand my argument try running it into ai to dump it down for you
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>>4165968they disagree with actual science all the time on reddit. they just look less bad recently because tiktok has far more retarded users.
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>>4165226>I'm just autistic over biology and evolutionThat's guga, I still not completely understanding why people use to associate autism with childly and sometimes faggy shit, and that usually many times many autists fit with this stereotype, albeit I'm actually an ADHD nigger.
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>>4164961 (OP)OP what do you think abak chicky and bobr?
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>>4165985That's why I said "even reddit" it was an exaggeration
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>>4165980Don't try to act smart, this is the bottom of the barrel of arguments, you didn't disprove race at all.
>We all developed the sameNo we did not, we develop in relation to our environment, and the environment is different for all of us, retard.
>We all adapt the same to the same factorsAlso no, multiple different traits can prosper even with the same factors, it's how biodiversity works, both monkey and sloth are arboreal dwellers but they have many differences, these differences come from the fact that both of their strategies work, there is not one specific "best strategy" in relation to factors, therefore it is wrong to assume that every single living being will develop the same trait because of a specific factor, hell! Why do we have less fur than chimps? Ev&doe we shared the same environment. Because, hairless or otherwise, allowed us to prosper in different niches in the same environment, so no, we do not adapt the same.
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>>4165852I think it seems that heggin' civilization builder ANF (and AHG) tan/oliveskins were an ancestral Cracka genetical component and liensge,so Sandpipo (West Asians) and others with that ancestry woulddn be actually partly porch monkeys, inb4 the goy25clit failtroll starts to sperg and like here.
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And if you're referring to individuals of a race… No. Someone cannot adapt to a situation because they want to, race is a very real concept which defines that inherent character and genome every person is born with, sure, you put Africans in Europe again and they might turn out like Europeans, however this is across multiple generations and without a constant influx of native Africans, race is very very real.
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>>4166024AHG ancestry as found in europeans is fairly little in modern eastern Mediterraneans who are more Natufian heavy.
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>>4166050And by Easter Mediterranean i mean near eastern, though greeks got millions of middle easterners during the ottoman population exchange
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>>4166059Like Assyrians Mandeans and other Levantines and Mesopotamians? Albeit modern Syrian "arabs" usually have more ANF (thereby AHG too I guess) ancestry than natufian ancestry get, sometimes even the IHG/Zagrosian component supprase the ANF one.
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>>4166076From what i have seen there is a big difference between early anatolian and late anatolian neolithic farmers. (Barcin vs. Tepecik-Ciftlik)
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>>4166091Yes and that's the same thing I think sister! There's things that differentiates and separate Neolithic and Palaeolithic Anatolians from Copper Age/Eneolithic/Chalcolithic and Bronze Age Anatolians, such as the fact the last one have excess of IHG/Zagrosian and CHG admix.
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Excuse me if I'm making you somewhat uncomfortable by mi ESL excesses, I'm kinda drunk rn oh shit.