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>>4107294Yes that is what I meant, sorry for my ESL.
>civic nationalismOnly this?
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>>4107296So black that someone would recognize that you are from two different races.
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>>4107311Yeah, but I what I mean, there are some fascist who believe that anti-racism is an inherent principle of that ideology. Are they also just civic nationalists?
What about race realism, it is a fact of nature and not dependent on ideology, how can race-realists cope with the color of their girlfriends skin?
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>>4107332What about the race-realism part, you can not just stop believing in gravity for example?
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>>4107311>>4107294Ethnic nationalism can be cultural too and not defined strictly by ancestry or race
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>nationalistic valuesFor THEIR nations, sure.
>>4107294There is only one nationalism, and its ethnonationalism
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>>4107343Which nations for that of their girlfriends or their own?
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On a side note, what do we think about people like Jude Bellingham?
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>>4107366Would you ever date a person from an "inferior" race?
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>>4107347What are (You) doing? Are you fishing for BWC or something?
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>>4107378I am trying to have a debate on pol, that is about politics (oy vey i know).
Also what do you mean with fishing for BWC?
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>>4107376Why do you consider it unethical?
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>>4107384You are seeking affirmations from white men that (You) are allowed to have nationalism's for the nation you are in. This is the vibe I'm getting from you.
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>>4107392You mean I am a black person living in Europe trying to justify being a European nationalist?
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>>4107398Europe, america, were ever, that's the vibe I'm getting from you.
The definition of 'a nation' is of 'a people', and that has been the case except until the 80s. "Diversity" and "multiculturalism" is ethnic cleansing and genocide, by definition.
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>>4107404Anything you say nowadays is followed by presumptions about your person, I really hate it. Where in this thread did I do anything more than ask questions? I am white if that matters btw.
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>>4107413>Mixed race childrenOpinion on Jude Bellingham?
>aberration from healthy race relationsYour definition of this seems rather arbitrary, what is it based upon?
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>>4107414If I were any shade of brown, and browsed far right websites, I'd be asking this question, because I would be worried about being kicked out of their nation, especially if I lived in Europe. Unless you are just a shit eating leftist, which now seems to be the case.
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>>4107417>Jude BellinghamIdk who that is.
>Your definition of this seems rather arbitrary, what is it based upon?Maybe it is, but you asked me a personal question about my personal stance on such things.
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>>4107422>being a leftistI am beyond existence itself.
This is my attempt to try and revive pol with a political discussion. But if I were brown/black person, wouldn't I have asked, if heccin based black people who bleach themselves are welcome?
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>>4107425>Idk who that is.Example of positive race-mixing, but it does not matter, since I consider him an outlier.
>Maybe it is, but you asked me a personal question about my personal stance on such things.Well, some people need rational evidence to justify their deeply personal beliefs. For give me for asking that question, if I offended you.
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>>4107426Funny how you asked for answers and debate, and every reply I've given you has had my actual opinion to the question in your OP, but you've ignored them.
A nation is not just a physical land and water area, but a metaphysical reality. A nation IS a people group and were they live.
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>>4107434that's a random fucking footballer who cares how is that positive you gentile
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>>4107436Well you attacked me by calling me a non-white and accusing me of things, I was trying to defend myself.
What do you say to someone who does not believe in a metaphysical reality? What constitutes a group of people? Ten blacks and ten whites make a group, do they form a nation? What about transcendental nations, with no boundaries, like the nation of Israel before the creation of modern Israel?
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>>4107444He is liked by a lot of people, many women make tiktok edits of him, also he has good physical attributes, speaking objectively and he seems intelligent.
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>>4107450I would say muttmerica by definition isn't a nation, but rather an empire. Would you agree?
>>4107461>What do you say to someone who does not believe in a metaphysical reality?You literally can't say this, because chairs are chairs whether they are wood, plastic or metal. Do you need me to find you the classical (used for 2000+ years) definition of 'a nation'?
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>>4107450Some would say that this is not happening due to racial division, but rather due to social division. Most political infighting and culture war in the US happens between whites.
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>>4107478A chair is nothing, it is nothing more than an idea, which are neurons firing off inside your brain.
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>>4107478Also definitions can change, there is nothing inherently eternal to them unlike other things.
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>>4107486Oh God, you are insane. By your justification, why do you care about your OP? Those are just words that are ideas.
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>>4107492Well yes maybe, but they are concrete things concerned with reality, not abstract ideas, I just use words to talk about them.
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>>4107500>chairs aren't realYou aren't allowed to use your justification if you think chairs aren't real.