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>nigga i eat my shit
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he isnt even real engels made him to ragebait marx
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>>4086872 (OP)It doesn't really matter, anyone with half a brain will understand that collective teamwork is simply more efficient then pure individualism, with that in mind collective oriented people are well off, Nophono ideology.
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>>4086884>anyone with half a brain will understand that collective teamwork is simply more efficient then pure individualismI don't care about that though. I care about pursuing my own self interest
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>>4086882dude that's so freaking funny how did you come up with that?
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>>4086886If it conflicts with another? You two will fight, and obviously the one who brings their buddies will win.
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>>4086889True. People will naturally coagulate into groups of other people who are more or less aligned with their expression of their pure individualism
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>>4086884Working with the collective as the rationally best option for you as an individual does not contradict egoism at all
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>>4086892Yes.
>>4086894Also yes, it's just a Nophono ideology imo.
>Do whatever is in your own best interest As if that's not the default for every living thing.
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>>4086898You just keep proving him right.
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>>4086902Proving who right? OP? I just explained literally every living thing is Egoist by nature, not just whites, if you're talking about Steiner or whatever xher name was, then sure, xhe's right, I'm just saying it's a very obvious take.
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>>4086914Not everyone is totally egoist though, since many people claim to prioritize the well being of others over their own. But it could be argued that doing this is serving their own ego, because they desire to be seen as an self sacrificial altruist and a good person.
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>>4086925What youve been diagnosed with
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>>4086918Exactly, the sacrifice of a worker bee to save it's colony is not a selfless act, it dies so that it's genetic closest may survive (the queen) and continue its phenotype, it gains something even if not as an individual organism, all genes are selfish.
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>>4086942you confused me fuck you sorry btw
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I felt disturbance when I saw that nose
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>>4086957She was a pooner too btw
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>>4086957Rand? not Ayn Rand? or Ms Rand? or Mrs Rand? odd…
It's true, but this is bad writing, wikifags.
(she is atheist btw)
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>>4086962I rape you daily and while you scream, beg and fight for your freedom you somehow managed to type this.
Voluntarists own you
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>>4086999retarded egotistical hedonists you need to be purged
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>>4086985Timmytarians won
WPR lost…
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>>4086872 (OP)Epstein was an egoist
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>>4087020nigger babbling about some niggerbabble
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>>4086999>because by doing so I set a precedent for others No, this is retarded.
Instead of transferring your value across society, which is collectivist- anti individual, and against your "ego" (yourself)- It is better to say you value human life, so that when you see someone dying- you, following your values, should save that person.
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>>4087024against the person, not the argument lol!
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>>4087031Values don't come from nowhere, most especially not from pure reason alone, and by informally convincing others to do as I do through leading by example just by following my own values (which benefits me in the long run, both in terms of satisfying my ego and possibly prolonging my life) I could contribute to a
society which benefits me.
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>>4086957This and Rothbard
Holy kek
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Literal who in picrel
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Replace egoist with agrarian
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Being nice and helping people is cool
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>crackkkas now openly admit to being slfs
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>>4087080Looks very Montanan in my opinion
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>>4087080Being jewish makes you 80% bad and 20% barely acceptable in society
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>>4087048>productive selfishnessNo, this is not what she believed.
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>>4087110Ayn Rand or Karl Marx?
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>>4087094Based kikebro who doesn't make it his entire personality
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>>4087122Boring, she's still a stupid whore doe.
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>>4087055Your values come from what you are.
You are living. By virtue of being life, you value being alive as acting in accordance with what life is, being; self directed animate matter,
Animate matter cannot be self directed without having a goal. You cant have an end without a means or a means without an end. that goal is being alive, with the further goals or "values" given by the sustaining of life, such as eating.
All Life wants to live.
And more specifically on you; you are a person. You and read, write, talk, create and most importantly you can think. You can create ideas. concepts. This is what separates you from the rest of life, from plants, mushrooms and mere animals.
So, to live, as you are life, you should be rational. Since you cannot live as a human being without the use of your thoughts, you cannot live as a human being by refusing to think. How long can a mentally disabled person survive in a jungle, at a job, or even just putting a spoon to their mouth, without using their mind? By refusing to think, you are trying to become brain-dead. You are trying to abandon the means by which a human being lives. You are trying to die by not thinking. You should not do this.
So by nature, your goal is life as you are living and your method is through rationale.
A further reason as to why you should be rational, and should live is because of what death is as opposed to life.
Death is when life ceases to be animate, therefore becoming "dead" or becoming a "corpse" which is due to it no longer sustaining it's existence. It becomes matter instead of animate matter.
Can a rock value? Can it enjoy coffee? Can it gain anything? These are rhetorical; they can't. They do not have goals or values because they do not have the means to achieve them. They are missing the "animate" matter which is self directed. It's only direction is determined by rock hitting rock, and not rock moving on it's own will.
So in death, you can't have any value- you cant gain anything because the "you" doesn't exist to gain it. So by necisity, if you enjoy and want anything then you should value life as the means to get there.
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>>>4087055
>Your values come from what you are.
>You are living. By virtue of being life, you value being alive as acting in accordance with what life is, being; self directed animate matter,
>Animate matter cannot be self directed without having a goal. You cant have an end without a means or a means without an end. that goal is being alive, with the further goals or "values" given by the sustaining of life, such as eating.
>All Life wants to live.
>And more specifically on you; you are a person. You and read, write, talk, create and most importantly you can think. You can create ideas. concepts. This is what separates you from the rest of life, from plants, mushrooms and mere animals.
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>So, to live, as you are life, you should be rational. Since you cannot live as a human being without the use of your thoughts, you cannot live as a human being by refusing to think. How long can a mentally disabled person survive in a jungle, at a job, or even just putting a spoon to their mouth, without using their mind? By refusing to think, you are trying to become brain-dead. You are trying to abandon the means by which a human being lives. You are trying to die by not thinking. You should not do this.
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>So by nature, your goal is life as you are living and your method is through rationale.
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>A further reason as to why you should be rational, and should live is because of what death is as opposed to life.
>Death is when life ceases to be animate, therefore becoming "dead" or becoming a "corpse" which is due to it no longer sustaining it's existence. It becomes matter instead of animate matter.
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>Can a rock value? Can it enjoy coffee? Can it gain anything? These are rhetorical; they can't. They do not have goals or values because they do not have the means to achieve them. They are missing the "animate" matter which is self directed. It's only direction is determined by rock hitting rock, and not rock moving on it's own will.
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>So in death, you can't have any value- you cant gain anything because the "you" doesn't exist to gain it. So by necisity, if you enjoy and want anything then you should value life as the means to get there.
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>>4087110>She lionized serial killers unproven assertion.
>big business as "America's most persecuted minority" In the starting passages her book "atlas shrugged", one of the largest railway companies is portrayed as being run by an idiotic, fat and ugly stout man who has no backbone, btw.
She also said
"Business, who should be capitalism's greatest ally are now its greatest enemy" (paraphrasing here, I don't have the actual distinct quote)
Her point on "America's most persecuted minority" is the people who are good. the "atlases" of the world, not big business, or even business qua business because that is absurd.
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>>4087220Rationality is not a necessity, nor a specific living strategy of man, if anything it's just a small footnote of many others that's allowed us to get to this point, deep down we have always been persistence hunters, and intelligence isn't a necessity for such a task, besides that, rationality is often maladaptive, such as in the case of sober suicide, no animal would kill themselves, because they fear death, once rationality takes precedence over fear you get both courage and suicide, death is a neutral thing that cannot be said to be either good or bad therefore a rational actor has no inherent aversion to it, we all die eventually, our existence is rather fleeting, a quicker death is of no change, so no, you don't necessarily require rationale, it has its ups and downs.
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>>4087262Her cartoonish sycophancy for "businessmen" had her effectively excuse that class for their countless rent-seeking, unproductive, and ultimately destructive activities.
>No, don't blame the men of Union Pacific Railroad for lucratively using their wealth and connections to the state apparatus for lobbying for land grants, subsidies, and a federal commission; blame "the regulator bureaucrats" (who just so happened to be recommended by the railway tycoons).Ayn Rand on William Edward Hickman, 19-year-old murderer of an innocent 12-year-old White girl:
>Other people do not exist for him, and he does not see why they should," she wrote, gushing that Hickman had "no regard whatsoever for all that society holds sacred, and with a consciousness all his own. He has the true, innate psychology of a Superman. He can never realize and feel 'other people.'" №4087356[Quote]
>>4087267the correct answer is from god o algo
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>>4087292>deep down we have always been persistence huntersArgument from history. AND EVEN THEN, it doesn't dispute.
What are we NOW? what does it require for you to live?
And further on this, it wouldn't be "what strategy did early humans sometimes use"
A strategy such as persistence is only one possible means. The more general means is the ability to identify and select effective means.
In simple terms, What sustains life?
eating Food, water, and in an environment suitable to you.
How do you do those things?
By picking a means to do so.
How do you pick said means?
By comparing means.
Which requires IDEAS in the context of man- since you are not an automaton.
As I said, a brain dead retard cannot survive.
>rationality is often maladaptiveRationality is the ability to create ideas, to form concepts, to think. It does not mean ignoring emotion, treating every desire as irrelevant, or choosing death because you can imagine a syllogism that justifies it.
Also, your point on this, refutes nothing. The fact that a person can use reasoning in an argument for suicide does not show that rationality as such is maladaptive or suicidal, and you've refused to attack the point on why rationality is a requirement of human life, so you've ceded the more fundamental point.
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>>4087356appeal to authority, also it is just subjective morality at it's base. You are following the whim of a supposedly existent god who is not within the realm of existence as opposed to the whim of yourself, still whims.