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>>4022049 (OP)pedophilia was the common norm across the entire planet 150 years ago the age of consent in america for example was literally like 10
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Good job on capitalizing the J.
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>>>4022049 (You) (OP)
>pedophilia was the common norm across the entire planet 150 years ago the age of consent in america for example was literally like 10
That is the point, that christians try to moral high ground about
something they're 100 percent guilty of. They are not exempt from
the example.
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>>4022080by your own logic everyone is guilty and anyone who says they arnt a pedo are hypocrites trying to moral high ground
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>>4022086what the actual fuck did you mean by this
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>>4022049 (OP)yes there is a verse where Christ condemns pedophilia, Matthew 18:6.
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>>>4022049 (You) (OP)
>yes there is a verse where Christ condemns pedophilia, Matthew 18:6.
The verse isn't talking about pedophilia.
The context is jesus calling for the hanging of anyone who makes his children stern away from him/sin.
But pedophilia in the bible has not been identified as a sin, thus making this claim false.
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>>4022107cant read award. in the original greek the statement is skandalon which means to entrap someone with words. therefore the text is about grooming children and not "causing them to sin" or whatever mental gymnastics you were on about
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>>>4022080 (You)
>Truthfully,back then we had some wicked ways of living,comparing what happened 1000 years ago and putting it up with the modern standards is stupid,back then we had some… pretty wicked morals,but thats because our life's back then were very short and all,what was considered okay back then today is disliked,but the common point of abrahmic religions isnt just to marry and sex,the common goals of god was to help those in need fight back if someone attacks and love your brothers
You deem the teachings of god as wicked ways of living? These are things that were left unaddressed by god during the time frame of his existence on this plane, must mean he had no problem with it.
Then are you therefore denouncing the word of god? Are you renouncing your faith in the holy one?
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>>>4022107 (You)
>cant read award. in the original greek the statement is skandalon which means to entrap someone with words. therefore the text is about grooming children and not "causing them to sin" or whatever mental gymnastics you were on about
There is no sexual connotation, therefore the verse "sterning them away from god" is to be the valid context of the verse…
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>>4022118in what world does
>But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and [that] he were drowned in the depth of the sea.which is the closest translation from greek to english mean "sterning them away from God", you still cant read
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forgot to remove picrel award
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>>4022121inb4 you say
>offend doesnt mean what youre saying it meansthe specific word used cant be translated into english as one word like it is in greek so the word offend is used as a standin for it, the meaning of the word is
>to take advantage of a period of intellectual darkness by deploying an attractive synthetic point of insight that emulates the light of natural wisdomwhich as im sure you know, is core to pedophilia.
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>>>4022121
>inb4 you say
>>offend doesnt mean what youre saying it means
>the specific word used cant be translated into english as one word like it is in greek so the word offend is used as a standin for it, the meaning of the word is
>>to take advantage of a period of intellectual darkness by deploying an attractive synthetic point of insight that emulates the light of natural wisdom
>which as im sure you know, is core to pedophilia.
No, that's false.
The evolution of the word "grooming" begin in the 1970's by law enforcement when it began to be used in a sexual manner.
Grooming can either be sexual manipulation or non sexual manipulation.
If you cannot objectively conclude whether or not it is sexual than what you are saying cannot be considered objectively valid.
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>>4022131and you still cant read. pedophelia inherently includes grooming so it doesnt matter if the grooming is sexual or not because all pedophelia is grooming even if not all grooming is pedophelia. the passage is a rebuke against all forms of tricking children in order to destroy them which means that pedophelia is being spoken against.
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>>>4022116 (You)
>god never said to like children or little ones,in islam (notorious here i admit) had the concept of physical and mental maturity,and whatever the Christian here said about mathew 18:6,god knew we evolve through time and didnt assign a specific number,just the things like "sound of judgment" which means physical and mental maturity
But there are hadiths that conflict with this one.
You also cannot use the idea that "aisha was 17 during hajra"
That idea came from a weak narrator, and most scholars disagree with him.
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>>>4022131 (You)
>and you still cant read. pedophelia inherently includes grooming so it doesnt matter if the grooming is sexual or not because all pedophelia is grooming even if not all grooming is pedophelia. the passage is a rebuke against all forms of tricking children in order to destroy them which means that pedophelia is being spoken against.
Ermm… gonna need a source on that one?
Pedophilia means sexual attraction towards prepubescent children…? Now you're just misconstruing the definition of words to fit whatever you're saying.
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>>4022137and what does one do when they act on that urge smarty pants?
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>>>4022137 (You)
>and what does one do when they act on that urge smarty pants?
Well you see, the term grooming can simply be defined as manipulation of a vulnerable individual… soo yeah, we're going to need to find evidence for sexual manipulation for it to be considered pedophilic… soooo untill you do that then this verse does not pertain to what you are saying.
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>forgot to remove picrel award
what's a picrel
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>>4022140>verse is about not being allowed to trick children in order to destroy them<pedophelia isnt about tricking children in order to destroy them chudthis is the greatest bait ive ever fallen for, congrats
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>>>4022140 (You)
>>verse is about not being allowed to trick children in order to destroy them
><pedophelia isnt about tricking children in order to destroy them chud
Differentiate manipulating children into doing sexual acts, and manipulating children by itself, they are mutually exclusive from eachother.
Anyway I accept your concede.
Good day to you.
ahahahhaha
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>>4022144they arent mutually exclusive and you know it, the words "manipulating children into sex" literally start with "manipulating children". anyone who manipulates children is being spoken out against no matter what their end goal is
<its not a concession its just realizing that youre not debating youre being a contrarian for gegs
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>>Made in the same place=the same beliefs after milenia
The beliefs in the bible don't change or shift over time.
Something considered infallible couldn't be improved by the fallible minds of humans… otherwise the bible itself is fallible and therefore in need of burning.
Anddd…. i'm also not mexican you xenophobic alt-right nazi.
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>>4022065Tsm
Only christians avanzed morally over that time, hence why pedofilia isn't a thing that christian institutions defend anymore, eve&doe it was common to be mentioned in the old testament(decannonized bs), since the rest of the world has been the third one must of the time they still support it trough religious institutions
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>>>4022144 (You)
>they arent mutually exclusive and you know it, the words "manipulating children into sex" literally start with "manipulating children". anyone who manipulates children is being spoken out against no matter what their end goal is
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>its not a concession its just realizing that youre not debating youre being a contrarian for gegs
Attrocious semantics argument, prove the correlation that manipulating children automatically makes you a pedo by default, manipulating children by itself is not pedophilic. for example if I told my son "You better be good this christmas or else you'll end up on the naughty list" does that make it pedophilic? even though pedophilia is specifically about sexual attraction?
I await your response bigoted fuck.
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>>4022150>Attrocious semantics argument, prove the correlation that manipulating children automatically makes you a pedo by defaultthe correlation doesnt matter because the idea isnt to make one. the fact of the matter is that all pedophiles must manipulate children to reach their end goal therefore they are spoken out against
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>>4022151youre reversing the concept from
>pedo = manipulator of children = spoken out againstto
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Hop off the vpn
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>>4022152Stolen flag, different fags lol
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It only misses the cringe wannabe american coat of arms
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>Hop off the vpn
why
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>>4022154who are you talking with in here dear sir?
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>>>4022150 (You)
>>Attrocious semantics argument, prove the correlation that manipulating children automatically makes you a pedo by default
>the correlation doesnt matter because the idea isnt to make one. the fact of the matter is that all pedophiles must manipulate children to reach their end goal therefore they are spoken out against
1 Samuel 15:3 "devote to destruction all that belongs to them. Do not spare them, but put to death men and women, children and infants"
Jesus has no problem murdering children and infants… but he draws the line at the manipulation of children?? The context that you're arguing for is inconsistent and not an accurate representation of jesus's character.
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>>>4022150 (You)
>>Attrocious semantics argument, prove the correlation that manipulating children automatically makes you a pedo by default
>the correlation doesnt matter because the idea isnt to make one. the fact of the matter is that all pedophiles must manipulate children to reach their end goal therefore they are spoken out against
matthew 18:6 "Those who believe in me" Oh so any kid who doesn't believe in jesus just doesn't fucking exist or matter in his eyes lmao.
Either jesus has no problem with non christian children and infants being ripped to pieces, or in the verse of matthew 18:6 jesus is saying that anyone who sterns any child away from christianity deserves to die.
Which one is it? or is it both?
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>>4022165God says make dnb's
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>>>4022165 (You)
>God says make dnb's
what does dnb stand for.
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>>4022173You're probably a Xitter immigrant oh algouh
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>>40221651 samuel is a historical text not a philosophical one. the point of that book is to give context to the rest of the bible not to give people a law to follow
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Well why would I tell you?
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>>4022169Why would anyone vpn as a mexican and why you think he does?
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>Well why would I tell you?
M'kay bigoted nazi.
I am too busy so buzz off.
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>>>4022165 (You)
>1 samuel is a historical text not a philosophical one. the point of that book is to give context to the rest of the bible not to give people a law to follow
that's cope. the books are jesus beliefs himself, or are you saying that jesus doesn't practice what he preaches… LOLLL!!
Jesus: "OY VEYYY THEY WERE AGGRESSIVE TOWARDS ISRAEL. QUICK SLAUGHTER THEM AND THE CHILDREN!"
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>>>4022184 (You)
>>errrrm ok! nasi!
So what about it, nazi.
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>>>4022184 (You)
>>errrrm ok! nasi!
I also don't look like that.
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>>>4022184 (You)
>>errrrm ok! nasi!
I am apart of the indian caste that has the most indo-aryan dna.
In short I am brahmin caste from kolkata.
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>>4022189>or are you saying that Jesus doesn't practice what he preachesJesus doesnt practice anything because He doesnt walk around on earth anymore and when He did i dont recall Him killing children. who are you to tell the Lord what ordinance He can and cant give out?
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>>>4022190 (You)
>Ok so you won the argument after calling someone "political party from 80 years agoo"? congratulations? Better yet, actually porve a point before recurring to buzzwords?
Retarded nigger, fails to grasp concept that the word grooming has multiple definitions for an hour straight.
Yes bigot, I won.
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>>>4022189 (You)
>>or are you saying that Jesus doesn't practice what he preaches
>Jesus doesnt practice anything because He doesnt walk around on earth anymore and when He did i dont recall Him killing children. who are you to tell the Lord what ordinance He can and cant give out?
He can kill kids just because?
RULES FOR THEE BUT NOR FOR MEE!
GEEEGGGG
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>>4022245>RULES FOR THEE BUT NOR FOR MEE!we are human beings so we need different rules yes, why would someone who operates in a different field follow the same rules as someone from another field
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>>4022248He he is going against who he say's he is.
He also didn't kill those kids and infants for no reason.
If you read the context behind the verse, he killed them because since they were related to the amalekites who were aggressive towards israelites, that they were therefore evil aswell.
I don't need to explain how idiotic this sounds.
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>>4022261>going against who you say you are is when your actions have complexityyeah ok bud
<>He also didn't kill those kids and infants for no reason. If you read the context behind the verse, he killed them because since they were related to the amalekites who were aggressive towards israelites, that they were therefore evil aswell.i feel like this is something i should be telling you, i obviously knew that and never mentioned it because its irrelevant to the core topic about rules for thee but not for me
>I don't need to explain how idiotic this sounds.nigga thinks the children who had their civilization destroyed wouldnt come back to destroy israel
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>>>4022261 (You)
>>going against who you say you are is when your actions have complexity
>yeah ok bud
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>>He also didn't kill those kids and infants for no reason. If you read the context behind the verse, he killed them because since they were related to the amalekites who were aggressive towards israelites, that they were therefore evil aswell.
>i feel like this is something i should be telling you, i obviously knew that and never mentioned it because its irrelevant to the core topic about rules for thee but not for me
>>I don't need to explain how idiotic this sounds.
>nigga thinks the children who had their civilization destroyed wouldnt come back to destroy israel
Jesus does that practicion what he preaches, "Love your enemies" "give to the poor" Jesus teachings subservience whilst acting like a chimp at an entire nation simply for being aggressive towards jews.
What I'm saying here is that obviously, his teachings and views are inconsistent and shift sporadically.
You also should be beaten until your pants overflow with your own excrement for worshipping a "god" who worships a nation of subhumans who were spared by superior nations out of pity.