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Charisma
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The art of rhetoric
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>>3989793not really, even with charisma, if hitler said that he wanted to rape the east and exterminate all negroes and kikes nobody wouldve followed him
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>>3989808thats not an answer
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>>3989809The concept of Great Men
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French niggas love they nsbm
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>>3989817this is a great group, put picrel fits the theme of my post
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>>3989809Yeah exactly, he spoke with charisma. He said it in a way that had the voice of the people.
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>>3989831Also you can do propaganda once you start doing this.
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Be charismatic
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what i mean is, how tf do i convert libfarts to national-socialists only by not too shockings word?
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He makes edits on natetok and schizogram
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>>3989831>he said it in a waythats what im asking for
>>3989839not an answer
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>>3989840go up to randoms and pig out about da joos
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>>3989845idk if it sounds good to foreigners, but their lyrics are really tuff, thats what made me like them
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>>3989850what if those persons were your direct friends
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>>3989840>not too shocking words Instead of saying nationalism say pride in your nation and people, instead of socialism talk about how much more equal you want to be. Avoid using words that scare people.
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>>3989857If they are your friends they will listen more.
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Look up speeches of politicians and try to replicate that.
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This dosent answer your question but hitler and goebells didnt have to deal with todays politically correct people, nowadays they are programmed to instantly think nazi idea = bad fascist idea = bad and to disregard anything you may say because they are just a nat zee. The second issue you have to solve is how easy it is to appeal to left wing ideologies in comparison to right wing ones.
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>>3989860yeah, but i want detail and actual talk-science. i guessed that i needed to slightly switch the words. but i cant get deep enough
>>3989872uhhh nvm, what if they are like your coworkers. they dont gaf about you, but you see them everyday and your social status depends on them
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>>3989887lets say, nobody is really rooted in any ideology. litteral normies with no too big opinions on anything
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>>3989893Coworkers are risky to do.
>>3989912Slowbvrn, let your ideologies on to them very slowly. Overtime they will start thinking like that, this is how people get like redpilled or something.
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>>3989912Those dont really exist, especially not after the pandemic, whenever someone says they are apolitical they are obviously lying. You need alot of time and effort to actually convert someone
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>>3989928Thats why im asking, i dont want to get BTFO like the chuddy biggot i am
>slowbvrn what if i cant?, if i only had limited exchanges with them like 1 or 2 times a month?
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>>3989934they do actually. maybe not in countries that you know, but in france nobody has a real opinion excepts trannies and chuds. all the other think like soyboys
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>>3989952You have to socialize more whether you loke it or not, you have to befriend your allies.
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>>3989971no ut like, socilizing or not i cant have full on their attention just like that. and even by socializing, you rarely talk about politics with apes.
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read siege nigga mass movements died with hitler
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>>3989984im not asking about a whole country uprising. just some small talk in a philosophic/debate club
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>>3989994relationships dont work like that here
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>>3989997you are a national socialist, correct? you are trying to radicalize normies into becoming ns, correct?
dont
there is no point
find people who already share your ideas and stick with them
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>>3990027well if you want to waste your time training to become hitler 2.0 you can start by becoming homeless and spending a lot of time reading, not posting on the sharty
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>>3990037im already reading, i dont want to be homeless because i wouldnt be able to read. also hitler WOULD have posted on the shitty
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working crowds is surprisingly easy, getting them up to speed on the future vision and founding philosophy behind your principles will not be as effective or nearly as possible as you think, but that's irrelevant to leadership in the short term foundational phase. It's like building a pyramid scheme from the ground up eventually you'll have trusted up to speed subordinates to take over your job and make their own cells. This applys to literallly anything from making a book club to political activism.
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the guy who will reply below me is a pedophile
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>>3989774 (OP)this happens when price of food gets so high that the normies go out into the streets and look for answers until the radical extremist groups recurit them. thats how hitler did it also he was pretty in the know about the average german's plight
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>>3990066kill yourself failtroll nigger
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>>3990063aslong as the society is destroyed and the status quo forever broken it doesnt matter what happens next
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>>3990063i dont want to create the SS with my club, im not gonna do dis. but yeah
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>>3990075if you want to lead people you need to paradoxically know them each as individuals, yet lead them as a general group. Society need not apply you're in your own bubble with your cohort.
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>>3990085generalizations are key. once the masses notice issues and that the state cannot complete the social contract the before shamed and spat on obvious generalizations about race and social issues become obvious. and that is the time you get a strongman to tell them the truth and get them into one legion
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>>3990075>>3990085>>3990090Thats scaled way to high for my situation, but this is good advice nontheless
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>>3990080you can establish subordinate leaders empowered with their own trusted discretion guided by your commanders intent in a non SS capacity and it will only further your groups effectiveness at whatever your groups purpose is
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>>3990096wrong reply meant this guy
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>>3990096this is scaling way to high. im not really trying to create an organisation or a party of any sort
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>>3990095step 1 you break the bread and circuses and this is done by the bread becoming too expensive to buy which wil result in the normies noticing and the manipulation ends step 2 you get someone willing to die for the cause and with decent speaking skill to ferment and instill these ideas. step 3 you transfer these ideas into action. if you tell them this is how you fix society how you give them purpose they will become soldiers in your army and the final step is total social change
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>>3990115well the only way to convince anyone when you follow pretty extreme ideas is to find them in poor material conditions
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>>3990115What really is your goal?
I'm imagining your goal is to just steer or shift the vibe or general culture of a social group you're a part of, you'll still follow the basic frame work of leadership, you can conquer the group think by getting 1 or 2 guys up to speed and down with your program and from there spread, be an example to your guys in a way you want them to emulate so they may be the example for the mass to follow
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>>3990128it also matters what type of vectors of infection you pick. you need pretty idealogical strong men and men who are good at public speaking and general manipulation/charisma
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>>3990128im not trying to do anything serious, i just want to test my charisma and my ability to influence a crowd of litteral whos with the sheer powers of word.
Nothing big or masterful
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>>3990123of course, of course, but im not doing real politics here. i can appeal to people but i dont want to be their only guide. i just want to change their way of thinking
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ultimately extremism is an individual ideology it fundamentally doesn't scale and work well in real life. IRL just having a moderate culture group that's not going to crack down on people for expressing their more out there takes is going to be a lot more fun to be a part of.
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>>3990152well im not good at charisma but a good way to talk to someone is to work through their logic to convince them. use their own moral systems against them to subvert it. they wont even know that it has been subverted as they will come to the conclusion on their own. basically set them up with obvious answers to a question and let them add the logic together. its better if they come to the end goal on their own
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>>3990164https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8wVl14Tb4eo i know this is fiction but its a decent example of what i am talking about. he lets the farmer come to the conclusion its unfair then connects it back to how the companies are treating him. but also alot of charsmia comes from general demeanor that is built up over your life and physical traits also
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>>3990149I think any literal who has some sort of skill or ability to be leveraged as long as their loyal to you and can be trusted the will be useful. Also anyone who openly displays proficiency for manipulation should be held as far away fucking possible.
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You don't. People of Germany at the time were hardened by wars and they lost all their money. People today live lives that are far too luxurious and convenient for any but the most deranged people to be attracted to extremist ideas. That's why political extremism will never be a thing until society breaks down.
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>>3990191that is true and we also have to take into account people go beyond their natural limits when they hold passion/love for something
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>>3990167>>3990182i definitely see what you mean. a great way of talking to people actually
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>>3990201this doesnt take into account the mental health that society has degraded. and yes extremeism usually takes hold when the government and society has completely failed them
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>>3990167ultimately don't think about it like you're tricking them in some master Machiavellian scheme, if you want to change the way people think, then let them think, use language and examples that are relevant to them and have them arrive at their own conclusion you don't need people to agree with you entirely for them to still follow or value your insight
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>>3990213i know i just like to use more graphic language then needed geg
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>>3990201shitskins have it hard in our country. maybe i should start the hecin NS revolution with poojeets and braplgerians
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Normies stick to anything that sounds smart from a mainstream view, like the news… but without 6 trillion Jew bucks and a broadcasting network, the best you can do is back up anything you say with quotes from classical works. Normies love their goyslop and like black and white stories. That's why Normies say dumb shit like, "Us Democrats are like the heckin' Rebels fighting against the big evil Trump Empire." So quote chuddy philosophy, and they'll think you're the smartest person in the room… but don't over do it, or you'll look like a smug dickhead
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>>3990224dude us democrats are so based and redpilled and against the evil orange man that our leadership is bought and paid for by the same people as the republicans GEG!
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>>3990230thats an actual strategy since most of niggers and shitskins dont vote. they actually represent a fair part of the country
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>>3990243time to build living flesh tanks out of nigger skin geg
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>>3990246i vvill
niggers are the future viKANGS of national-socialism
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>>3990182watch video of military commanders, they need to speak on a dumb enough level for the lowest level most retarded marine can understand them while still articulating real ideas. Everything in their mannerisms vocal and physical can be sources of inspiration for how to get your own public speaking ability.
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>>3990337ALr alr, ill dodis ty
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>>3990368now also set and setting so the speeches before going to literal war might not be that applicable, but if you can find stuff in garrison you'll see some more relevant speaking skills demonstrated