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What we are seeing now, as a collective species, at least to the respect that those in the developed world quite literally live in an entirely different world than our own, is the spread of a single set of values and beliefs, as promulgated through the monopolized internet. It goes beyond the constraints of the social contract, to the portrait of life itself. In many ways, individuals are more likely to belief the picture of reality painted on the internet than that which they are confronted with daily. This dissonance is responsible for much of the mental health issues we see today.
This is a framework of looking at things that I am developing, and will be subject to much refinement. It is my belief that the sustained increase of antisocial populations in global major metropolitan areas, and even rural areas as Vermont has seen, is a large driver for the increasing trend of a digital life leading the real. Combined with the increased monopolization of the internet leading to a single set of stories, values, memes, being shown globally which is leading to one global value chain, and in many ways a broken and unescapable social contract the world is engaging in.
>i keep going onhttps://incandenzahal.substack.com/p/ant-hivejust looking for critique on my view
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Very good read
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>>3906414do you think anything put out is patently false?
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>>3906414also thank you :D
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>>3906431a question niggers ask
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>>3906431>What is logic?i think it is the system we use to prove or disprove arguments?
i guess it could just be the ordering within our brains to come to conclusions
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>>3906442A system of proving or disproving, instead of seeking?
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>>3906446seeking is another part of it, logic is the proving and disproving
at least i think
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>>3906448A logical mind is required to weigh evidence despite emotional appeal.
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is picrel a real image?
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>>3906455yes, it is a canadian book store
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>>3906418I don't believe the internet has properly matured enough to see a proper development of a cyber social order. It still remains unintegrated by our legal system as boomers are unable to understand it. When the tech-literate generations make it into government it will completely change what we think of as the "internet" today. Like with television. And I do imagine many of the conglomerates and monopolies will disappear given enough atrophy in the future.
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>>3906462The internet you speak of does not account for wisdom of the ages on it or the men who wield it or the racial divides.
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>>3906462>It still remains unintegrated by our legal systemit is used everyday in a myriad of cases, 4chan itself has built in report mechanisms to state LEOs, FaceBook and other major social media programs were bankrolled early by the CIA's venture capital arm
>I do imagine many of the conglomerates and monopolies will disappear given enough atrophy in the futureI think we are past that point. But regardless, my bigger issue is the spread of one major narrative and story told throughout the entire world creating 1 monoculture and 1 social contract… like real globalization without economic domination, just taking control of the brainrot and the low iq people that dominate every country
>i think the biggest point I raised though is about the growth of antisocial populations in every major metropolitan area across the globe leading to an increased digital life for everybody, normies and outcastes
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>>3906474>spread of narrativesI want the japanon to come back and info dump, he was wise.
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>>3906466you are just yapping really. Why are you acting so intellectual asking epistemic questions? Its far easier to read 2000 year old authors online than it ever was before. I can read a scan of the canterbury tales in both old english and modern without having to go to some elite library.
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>>3906485it is. i wrote it in like an hour and took some time to revise it.
the main goal was to get some stuff on the page and create a framework to advance and focus more in on.
im aiming to write more about the antisocial populations and their effect, a more complex analysis and commentary
just wanted an overview to get critique on the various pints
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>>3906490Will you use anything the jap posted a few weeks ago?
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>>3906462We are in between the bridge of old, centralized media and the newTM, "decentralized" internet.
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>>3906494maybe, id have to look and see
>>3906495id flip it
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>>3906474>my bigger issue is the spread of one major narrative and story told throughout the entire world creating 1 monoculture and 1 social contract… This is a salient issue with the hyper centralization of social platforms, i'd have to agree, although I don't think that narrative collapse is impossible and just the same control is overall impossible. There will always be destabilizers whether cyber or in real life. Even an internet empire will not last forever.
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>>3906500It won't, but it also doesn't have to.
You can go on Discord and speak to a Somali immigrant living in Dublin with an American accent espousing American values.
BLM riots in France, UK.
The way that the view on immigration is ubiquitous in any major developed country.
People saying the same things almost word for word globally.
Look at dating markets and expectations, the spread of incel ideology and beliefs in multinational and varied environs.
All you need to do is control the narrative for long enough to shift values to side with the monoculture.
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>>3906506Like, so many people view it as "the jews" or believe that a lot of these views are astroturfed when I think the truth is that pretty much every person in the developed world is getting the majority of their socialization from the internet. In a large part due to increased antisocial populations in the developed world forcing people into their little cuck cages.
When you have pretty much one internet, which is controlled by a small cartel, pushing one set of beliefs and values, you have a global shift in values. The constraints of the social control become global.
>The next thing I guess is the dissonance between the portrayed reality online and the reality experienced and how that leads to a rise in antisocial behaviors and depression.
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>>3906514I think that when you reach a position where global values are reinforced, and you cannot change perception around those values by movement within your community, the values will be the same. The material conditions can worsen, but people will hold the same beliefs.
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>>3906506>The way that the view on immigration is ubiquitous in any major developed country.This has far more to do with curriculums becoming just ideological indoctrination schemes and the teachers influencing their students views than it has to do with the internet. The reason why Gen Z foids and cucked men are socialists is because all their teachers were/are. Then, the view is parroted online.
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>>3906519Immigration as an example, a majority of the support is from the internet reinforcing people to neglect the views of their community, or people within community censoring their views because of the views of someone in Kansas while they live in Paris. If you get what I mean.
You cannot change values substantially when they are drawn from the internet where "X" values are promulgated and "Y" values are pushed away.
The increased antisemetism does not make this less true, just the shift of acceptable values to keep the global value chain strong.
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>>3906526I do not think so though. A lot of kids sit on the internet far more than anything you would see in real life. Education has a part to play, but I believe the internet is the biggest thing. And the internet is the biggest thing only because antisocial populations push normal populations to live increasingly digital lives.
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>>3906537The replacement of the real with the imagined real, or idealized real is valid.
I think the bigger issue is not necessarily between reality and symbols but the values people hold. Less perception and more belief.
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>>3906519Material condition defines humanity's values, everything we think is good to have is because it's scarce (ergo, food, a home and even abstract concepts like happiness) once something becomes abundant it loses its purpose, thus struggle and pain will naturally be the next sought after thing, which is why you see so many "depressed" LARPers on the internet.
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>>3906537>>3906545In the sense that we are creating a global social contract that is irrespective of societal differences and what citizens expect. Creating issues.
We also share values that harm us irrespective of context due to a global value chain being spread by the same place we all globally consume.
I think a great example of this kind of thing is dating standards / sexual market, immigration.
Baudrillard focused more on the idealized world or symbols being taken as real and replacing reality, the disharmony leads to discontent.
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>>3906547>Material condition defines humanity's valuesWhose material condition though? If all of humanity's values are shared and cherry picked before being spread out, the material conditions are not as relevant.
The values of Brazil or Europe coming from those pushed by technocrats in San Francisco.
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>>3906557All of humanity has the same material conditions is a fallacy
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>>3906559I didn't say that. I said that the values deriving from material conditions are not necessarily from the community who share the values anymore
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>>3906557Values aren't something purely social, everyone has innate sense of what's valuable and what's not, no matter how much social mindrape you try you can never erase human nature, so someone might have a value they live by but don't spread it.
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>>3906562if said values are not from the community who share them, then they are foreign?
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>>3906565The values come from the internet, they are foreign values accepted as cultural values because we are all connected
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>>3906567connection, over the internet, as accepted an cultural? Do you believe everything you hear?
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>>3906564I agree with this. But I am also speaking in the more abstract, and socially complex.
Law, sexual market, immigration, even the age of retirement or expected lives
>>3906572I have traveled quite a bit, in the past few years everything from simple actions to the commentary you hear at the bar is much less varied than pre-COVID
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>>3906418As far as your age of consent, hate speech, and adultery convergent examples go, these laws still vary widely by region. Is there a noticeable undercurrent pushing toward a global norm? Sure, maybe.
If I might suggest an additional example: kyc banking practices. A structure that functions nearly identically across regions. FATF meets to coordinate policg with nearly uniform adoption on a global scale.
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Again though, I am more seeking to expand on the whole growth of antisocial populations pushing people to live increasingly digital lives, then the effects of the internet on the shared values
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>>3906582Do account for minorities in any society barking loudly.
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>>3906579>KYCA great example.
I think age of consent is a pretty easy one to look at the entire world, and it is more about the trend towards a global norm.
Beyond even KYC, the push for completely digital banking and how normal that has become. The use of cash is strange in a lot of place.
Or even looking at something like surveillance and cameras everywhere.
Something that you see very little support for locally, but is spread through the internet and treated as a norm.
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>>3906587Well yeah, antisocial populations = people who exhibit antisocial behaviors. Increased population means fewer people engage in the real world.
Plus the internet is such an escape, literally everyone, save a minute few, socialize mostly through the internet
Sure most of it is not very different than real life, but the exposure to the one value chain is important IMO
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>>3906594Antisocial people suffer from mental illness and often do not recognize it, recognition and affirmation compel self improvement, anti social negative people resist positive self improvement and delve into depression and hatred
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>>3906378 (OP)Sounds like you're pretty young and spend a lot of time thinking about yourself, your friends, and what's directly in front of you. Someday you turn into an oldfag and realize the world moves and breathes in cycles of death and rebirth, but what carries on into the future is what succeeds at propagating its seed. Ideas, species, people, nations. This is the way of life, the most mysterious, wonderful, and horrific force in the universe. What fails to reproduce, dies, what succeeds carries on.
What you're witnessing is a vast culling. You're not wrong, there is a mass psychosis affecting huge swathes of humanity. A virus of ideas that have spread faster than ever through the digital fabric of reality. What is the byproduct of this new anti-social contract? Open your eyes brother, humanity is bifurcating.
The women affected by this psychosis, indignant insufferable hogs who thrash through the best years of their lives in a Satanic haze of hypergamy, killing every opportunity to raise a family that blesses her. The men are equally contemptible, selfish, entitled, but wholly unwilling to improve themselves, often indulging their base desires to the point of depravity. The only life borne from these dysgenic twisted forms of humanity are the Ascarsis Lumbricoides which burst from their worm-laden lower intestines. They will be gone within a generation, scorned, spurned, and rejected within the next two decades by the masses of humanity who carry the torch and refuse to lug the baggage of these wretches.
Who is succeeding in the game of life? Not just shitting out miscegenated, nationless, gormless children into the foster care system or single-parenthood. Not breeding like bugs until the environment cannot support their population. Who is succeeding at raising children within a stable loving household? My brother in Christ, it's a very specific kind of white.
Even among whites there has been a vast culling of the Boomer generation's offspring. Handed life on a silver platter and allowed to breed like nigger-cattle bugs, they created the world we exist in today but that is changing. It is in the epigenetic memory of the European to prepare for the Winter when austerity is on the horizon. We become hyper selective, temporally minded. The only white people who are succeeding at raising a family now are at the highest tier of intelligence, social adaptability, and temporal predisposition. We as a people are resurrecting the genetics of kings, saints, warlords, and monsters. We will continue to cull our weak into the mass of miscegenated goy-soup or suicidal leftism, while selecting the genes of warriors.
We have always been a small minority but we ruled the world with overwhelming violence that the nigger brain cannot comprehend. Those days are coming back. The weak will be culled.
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>>3906609Are you the beaver or did you read the beaver?
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>>3906612I don't know what that means.
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>>3906609>Words words wordsAlso huge cope at the end, do point to a single actually high quality warrior race that's supposedly in the making, besides that this is exactly what I stressed earlier in regards to nature's cyclical behaviour.
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>>3906624his words are too great for the weak
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>>3906623Did that scare me away?
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>>3906629Has that brought fear into my life?
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>>3906625>You're weak because you don't want to read 6 paragraphs that could be simplified into two sentencesNiggers just making filler for dramatic effect
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>>3906609I do not think there will be a collapse. Things will just get worse and people will maybe realize they are getting worse, but they will not act.
The new social contract is not anti-social, it is just unrepresentative of the collective consciousness from which it is manifested.
But to assume that there will be a culling or some great change seems unrealistic.
I do not doubt there will be change, but the shift to a monoculture with values not necessarily effected by the communities within them is not a new one, nor is it something that can be stopped. The real issue is that there is no community. Bowling Alone o algo
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>>3906635This looks like a page from the University of Minnesota Human Rights Library archive, presenting the text of Thucydides' account of Pericles' Funeral Oration (from *The History of the Peloponnesian War*, translated by Richard Crawley/Benjamin Jowett-style translation).
What would you like me to help with? A few things I could do:
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Summarize the key arguments Pericles makes (about democracy, Athenian character, military openness, etc.)
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Explain specific passages or historical context (this is a public domain classical text, so I can discuss and reference it freely)
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Analyze the rhetorical strategies or themes (e.g., the contrast Pericles draws between Athens and Sparta, his praise of democracy)
- Help with something else you have in mind related to this document
Just let me know what direction you'd like to go.
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>>3906632Don't be a doomed now, in nature, no dysgenic behaviour is spared, the Dodo probably thought it was untouchable and that it could degenerate it's biology as much as it wanted, regardless that wasn't the case and we know very well what happened afterwards, am I saying aliens will kill all of us because we decided to live in virtual machines? Not exactly, I'm simply showcasing how the laws of entropy prevent anything from remaining the same forever, therefore collapse is an inevitability.