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 β„–3895107[Quote]

>A tribe is the beginning of the nation
And it exist for economic reasons and used the blood as a bond, but the main reason is economic.
>People have separated from each other for economic reasons
And this is the key where all the pan movement have failed, cultural and blood ties do not feed a person.
This is why the German-Austrians didn't try hard to be part of the German empire till they suffered economically.
This is why the African nations sold their Niggers to the Jews,
This is why when the soviet union break not a single nation tried to form a Turkic union, they formed a council but not a united republic.
Hell even South Korea will not take a the north if it did break and this is why they give too many gibs to the North Koreans(ev&doe they are enemies) just so they don't collapse for now.
>What I am trying to say here
Is that the only way a pan-anything can work is with economic structure, huge money is the only thing will insure it creation and working on the long term.
Other than that it's just a retarded Idea.

 β„–3895111[Quote]

Even the Whtie ethno-state won't work.
The closet thing to a Whtie ethno state was 1800 America, and it failed in favor of a cheap cotton.

 β„–3895112[Quote]

Nationalism is leftist or whatever the fat turk on youtube says

 β„–3895139[Quote]

>>3895112
geg we all watch lavader here

 β„–3895144[Quote]

>>3895112
Because Turkish nationlaism is a bigger joke, even more than Nigger nationalism.
>No racial foundation
>No cultural foundation
>No religious foundation
The only&best thing that keep Turkey a nation is economic interests, other than that they are a a nation that look like Greeks and eat like an Arab and speak like a gook.

 β„–3895145[Quote]

>>3895107 (OP)
i agree but we should still cooperate as white christians (not you obviously)
>>3895139
nophono watches that fag

 β„–3895146[Quote]

HOLY TRUTHNUKE
FUCK PAN EUROPEANISM FUCK PAN ASIANISM FUCK PANAMERICANISM FUCK ALL OF THIS GLOBALIST GAY BULLSHIT
NATIONALISM IS THE WAY
THE ONLY WAY
THE ONLY TRUTH
AND REGIONALISM TOO! LOCALISM MUNICIPALISM AND REGIONALISM, ALL TIED WITH NATIONALISM IN A PRETTY LITTLE KNOT, IT ISN'T CONTRADICTORY LAVADER YOU CUCK FAGGOT FUCK YOU AND FUCK THE NEUVE DROIDE

 β„–3895148[Quote]

>>3895112
i fucking hate that video
and the one he made about race vs faith
so many bad takes opinions beliefs and assumptions
so much historical errors and half truths

 β„–3895151[Quote]

Pan-ism can be good on a small scale. For example, there's no reason Moldova shouldn't just unite with Romania

 β„–3895152[Quote]

>>3895145
We should corporate with Arabian as well

 β„–3895153[Quote]


 β„–3895154[Quote]

>>3895151
true
but lets be fr a pan greek movement, its just nationalism theres nothin pan on it kek

 β„–3895164[Quote]

>>3895145
No such thing as a "Christian nationalist"
You can't be nationalist and worship a foreigner God, the same gose for Mudslimes.

 β„–3895166[Quote]

>>3895154
I actually disagree, that kind of irredentism really helps spur popular belief in national myth and history, as a morale booster and to increase people's pride for a country.

 β„–3895170[Quote]

>>3895154
If you knew the history of greece it really was pan. There are greeks in the middle east still from byzantine times today. Creteians, cypriots and various greek subcultures existed from ottoman times and even a roman identity that survived untill the independence war.

 β„–3895171[Quote]

>>3895164
>You can't be nationalist and worship a foreigner God
why?

 β„–3895172[Quote]

>>3895164
You can if you psyop yourself into thinking it's your culture, Islam is different because it's an Arab supremacist religion

 β„–3895174[Quote]

>>3895164
Ev&oe allah is just hubal who was worshipped at the kaaba, so technically it is your local deity

 β„–3895177[Quote]

>>3895164
Allah and Mohammed are the manifestation of the Arab supremacism

 β„–3895186[Quote]

>>3895171
Because a religion is a spiritual politics for people.
>The cuckservative started as a Christian-White nationalist
And look what they achieved so far, they love Kikes more than lefties and obsessed with da bibisi more than troons

 β„–3895187[Quote]

>>3895172
Saracen, not Arabs.
And I left it because I won't worship the God of my enemy, even if hell is real than I rather go there than share the heaven with them.

 β„–3895190[Quote]

>>3895177
The Saracens aren't Arabs doe

 β„–3895192[Quote]

>>3895190
Same shit

 β„–3895194[Quote]

>>3895187
What's the difference

 β„–3895196[Quote]

>>3895192
Yeah you are the same as Moroccon.
We are all Sandniggers I know, however we aren't the same.
Northern Semits are better, Saracens larp as us because they are Niggers (they larped as the lowest group) that's how much we are higher than them

 β„–3895197[Quote]

>>3895190
>Saar me is Czech not slav!

 β„–3895198[Quote]

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>>3895196
>Yeah you are the same as Moroccon.
Assoori, you crossed a line.

 β„–3895200[Quote]

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>>3895194
Saracens carry J1 hablrugrub, Arabs carry J2.
Saracens are sub-human, Arab aren't.
Simple as that.
There is many photos about searches but I am not on my PC, Plus I am making a thread on the broom soon.

 β„–3895201[Quote]

>>3895166
>>3895170
im not talking Against the hellenes im just saying that at the end of the day they are all hellenes, they are of a single nationality, a pan greek nationalism would be like a pan catalan nationalism
theres only 1 catalan people and country, get it?

 β„–3895203[Quote]

>>3895197
More like Roma and Romanian.
>>3895198
It dosen't feel food dose it?

 β„–3895204[Quote]

>>3895164
What if christianism is part of your national identity culture and Heritage like all of the western hemisphere?

 β„–3895207[Quote]

GOD ISN'T FOREIGN HE IS GLOBAL
HE IS A MULTINATIONAL SOVEREIGN
HE RULES EARTH, NOT NATIONS
WHO RULES NATIONS ARE KINGS AND ANGELS (THRONE'S THEY CALLED?)

 β„–3895210[Quote]

>>3895203
Ok I think I get it now. Sorry for calling you a saracen or whatever they're called

 β„–3895215[Quote]

>>3895204
Yeah, dose the west seems nationalist to you?
Even Hitler mocked the so called Christian "nationalist" when he said that they have zero race awareness, a Jew who wear a cross is just a German to them.
>>3895210
Watre under the bridge man.

 β„–3895218[Quote]

>>3895201
No, that's anachronistic. There wasn't one "hellenic" people before the greek independence movement. The Hellenic identity itself was really only common in elite intellectual circles. As I said before, an actual roman identity, regional identites and cultures and even eastern "greeks" who called themselves roman.

 β„–3895220[Quote]

>>3895200
Do you have maps of which regions of the Arabian Peninsula are Saracen, both in the modern day and historically?

 β„–3895227[Quote]

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>>3895220
Green area are Arabs (real Arabs, as Nomadic Arameans).
The rest are Saracens or mystery meat, don't give a shit they are all sub-humans to me.

 β„–3895237[Quote]

>>3895227
So according to your map tunisia is even more keyed

 β„–3895238[Quote]

>>3895227
Nigger what is wrong with you

 β„–3895241[Quote]

>>3895227
Abrap schizo

 β„–3895249[Quote]

>>3895237
>Amorites are the commen ancestors of all the Semitic race
>Splited to Arameans, Akkadians, Cannanites
>Arameans splitted to Nomadic Arameans
AKA arabs, which is the literal meaning of the word, While Cannanites splitted to Phoenicians.
The J2 in Tunisia is probably from Carthage, the Amorites had J2 btw, and a little group of them had J1 and it disappeared from Syria till the Abbasied empire emerged
>>3895238
What is worng with (You)?
>>3895241
Why is it that Whtie people telling a sandnigger about history history and people?
Wouldn't you mind that I tell you about your people?

 β„–3895250[Quote]

*His history and people

 β„–3895253[Quote]

>>3895249
Ok is that good or bad

 β„–3895256[Quote]

>>3895249
Maybe being a bit too harsh and two-dimensional?

 β„–3895258[Quote]

>>3895253
Carthagians?
They aren't bad nigga.
Ain't no child sacrifice it's just a Roman propaganda, it's not like white people didn't lie before to justify their wars

 β„–3895260[Quote]

>>3895256
Live with them your entire life and you gonna call humanitarian.

 β„–3895262[Quote]

>>3895260
Not being two dimensional is key I guess.

 β„–3895264[Quote]

>Is that the only way a pan-anything can work is with economic structure
Or a war. Its usually wars that have united groups together. For example the french in the 100 years war, the germans and italians in the napoleonic wars.

 β„–3895271[Quote]

>>3895262
A question, you are the one who suggested Alison for work? Or was that another American?
If so then I missed you nigga, we kept arguing, but I can't say I didn't learn a thing or two from you.

 β„–3895273[Quote]

>>3895264
Not really.
You force them to live in your system but once the economics perks shape the nation they'll stay.
Otherwise they'll break eventually.

 β„–3895283[Quote]

>>3895271
Yes, knowing how to talk business is important.

 β„–3895289[Quote]

>>3895107 (OP)
what about the roman empire tho? they were pretty nationalistic and assimlated cultures pretty easily

 β„–3895301[Quote]

>>3895289
>Pretty easily
Geeeeg

 β„–3895302[Quote]

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But-but my Austro-Hungarian larp

 β„–3895305[Quote]

>>3895301
dude it took them like a generation or 2 to completely romanize gaul geg

 β„–3895340[Quote]

>>3895305
They used to live in Mudhhuts and the Roman give them cities.
Economics are survival, not to mention all Celtic foids lusted overall Roman soldiers because it's the Eugenic mechanism in human kind that any one who have power and statues shall pass his genes, the Romans killed their race and created a mutted abomination, but in case of a civilized people like the Phocnians was it any easy? In case of the Syrians was it any easy? We literally been part of Rome for 600 years and latin wasn't understood in mostly of the cities expect for the Roman citizens.
In nations that passed the village state survival was mostly via economics if they encountered nations that passed they city state
>Sorry for any ESL phone fagging
If you didn't understand a word tell me to fix it

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>>3895340
Forgot photo

 β„–3895350[Quote]

>>3895340
i mean if we are being honest they used genocide and making deals with tribal leaders to quickly romanize regions. also the roman empire was the foundation for the power of the west today. without it europe would be a much weaker place its the only time globalism on any scale worked for a time. i mean we still speak latin most european lanuages today are derived or based on latin. you cant just conquer a place through pure economic means. despite the promises of the eu and the goal of being a unifed europe. england still left the system. other nations will too. you need warfare to unify a people under on government

 β„–3895354[Quote]

>>3895340
a better example to support your case would be the mongols. they kept onto the land they had by taking over the tax system of certain nations

 β„–3895370[Quote]

>>3895215
fuck Adolf hitler
also a shit ton of christian nationalists were germanists doe? and there were almost 0 jews turned christian kek
also judaism is etnoreligious you cannot be jewish (middle eastern or half middle eastern and slavic/germanic) and a christian, they become just strange brown people (conversos)
also many christians were volkists and nationalists, specialty the DNVP or the FREIKORPS and the others

 β„–3895372[Quote]

>>3895340
Nah I disagree

 β„–3895382[Quote]

>>3895350
In case for thsoe who didn't reach the city stage just give them confront and easy life and you already conquered them, their foids will be counqerd without a fight as well, you realize how many black foids were lusting over your people when they lived in Africa?
>However
Any nation that made it to furthrr stage than the city can only be conquered via economics or something they can't do.
Syria was never been Romanzied because we were richer than them, however we been part of they empire because they were protecting us from Perisa.
In general low IQ people are aggressive when not threaten, submissive when threaten.
High IQ people are aggressive when threaten, submissive when not threaten.
Understand this and the Roman ways will makes more sense to you, so is your modern ways of your nation.



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