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>>3881679marge what are you talking about
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ISIS never fought in the Battle of Idlib
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>Glazing child rapists
Neck yourself spic
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>>3881713I never said they were good, theyre against my worldview and religion and im against theirs. Doesnt make them less interesting
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Also i obviously dont support them fucking kids, thats just what they do, and to be fair its not exclusive to ISIS but all Muslims
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>>3881739Im both of them geg, im not larping either though, im just interested
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>>3881742If you will larp something laro as the ezln or asprofirista not something from the other side of the wolrd
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>>3881739>webpImageboards aren't for you, chomsky honk
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The last time I tried sending dawla gemmies the automated system 'nished me
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>>3881815Sorry I didnt noticed, I try to use normal filetioes
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>>3881820But to be on topic:
ISIl are retards. I'd take shiites over ISIL anytime of the day.
They interpretation of the Quran is twisted, although their mission is pure
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>>3881807The EZLN was a faggot group that completely relies on propaganda and lies to sell an untrue idea of itself to foreigners, theyre a exalted attraction ride for international leftist liberals. After they took over a few cities (namely San Cristobal de las Casas) they only controlled the city for about a singular day and had to quickly fall back to the Lacandona Jungle, where they once again got raped until national outrage had mexicans nationwide protest and force Gortari to make peace accords. They "won" by a mere technicality. Their existance nowadays is only symbolic, and honestly, that annoys me more than if they would have all died during 1994 because nowadays they are nothing more than a joke.
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>>3881825Arent you the Finnish guy "larping" Salafism and talking about missing Tora Bora?
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>>3881807And Porfirio Diaz was just a historical figure, he had no glory so theres really nothing to larp about whit him, he set us on relative stability, got quickly overthrown and thats it. Hes too much of a nobody to larp as
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>>3881831I know another muslim Finn on the 'party, now turned radical, most likely turned a shaheed or found greener pastures than this site
We are different, that's not me
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>>3881825I dont know enough about ISIS theologically and their interpretation of Islam and it seems taboo to talk about on Islamic circles so i dont really know if their interpretation is just "sorta twisted" but still Sunni Islam or just completely something different, cant really comment on that, but i have to admit that the Islam of Mohammed doesnt seem to be the same Islam of today. Feels like actual Islam is somewhere between the Main Line Sunni Islam of today and more harsher interpretations of the Salafis and ISIS.
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>>3881828They coukd have saved us from the
(((TLCAN))), the fact that they turned into a tourist atraction for troons to say
>heckin whokesome socialism (=free hrt)Was the
glowies fault (all the presidents after cardenas)
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Do you know about migala?
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>>3881844If you wanna larp about a genuinely strong peoples movement i would go all the way to the 1920s and read a bit about the Cristero movement. Their cause was just, their heart was in the right place, its almost romantic how righteous that war and the fighters were.
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>>3881847Yes, do you like him?
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>>3881849Yes I do how coukd you tell
>>3881835https://youtu.be/pleOHU5MMTU?si=BS6afjMAKdYWZ4Ib>>3881848The cristero movement was keyed and ovious to happencalles was retarded (evendoe he made the maximato)
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>>3881840He talked crazy for like a month on here, directly referencing ISIS media, posting ISIS media, posting full lenght ISIS nasheeds, stuff like that. He always said he wasnt a Muslim though, just interested (if i remember correctly, this was like 10 months ago)
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>>3881851I dont like Migala personally. He says way too much lies and is way too much of a leftist retard for me to like him. Plus i dislike him as an individual, hes pretty repulsive and dismissive of any argument that doesnt fit his worldview
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>>3881842ISIS is on the right, mostly, but their take on it is extremist, as you know
Their ideology is mostly from uniting the ummah and bringing back the glory and power of the old empire
The Quran forbids suicide but encourages to fight for the religion (greater jihad) and one way how they've misinterpret it is allowing people to chase being a shaheed through jihad (planned suicide bombings)
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>>3881858Is the closest thing we have to a new revolution plus I lean to the left oviously not morena or fake left faggot supporting shit doe
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>>3881861If the big revolution-head is Migala i honestly dont want a revolution geg, im sorry man but i lean way more to the far-right than to the far-left. I dont know his believes on mexican nationalism itself, but im sure his interpretation of Mexico is way different than mine
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We need a new revolution a new Zapata a new Villa a new Madero
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>>3881860Do you think their tactics were wrong? like the whole spotlighting themselves by being as mediatic as possible? I hear thats one of the big differences between them and Al-Qaeda (evendoe they did 9/11)
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>>3881869When I was a caca I lived the rat race whit my family debts doing homework on a tiangis my mom told me once my father refused to eat so we could, I want a society where everyone has work education and a home
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>>3881870When the revolution comes theres more chances we have a big mob boss as president than some Nationalist. Drug-Money simply moves way more than any peoples movement can and realistically we are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Anyone whit actual power and willing to take on the task of leading a movement in politics is 10 feet deep in the Corruption of the state, and any peoples movement wich isnt corrupt and actually stands for an ideal will be crushed indirectly by the cartels (or end up becoming one). Violent revolution in Mexico isnt feasible, and thats not even considering what we will do post-revolution when the USA comes knocking on their neighbours(us) door
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>>3881866I probably wouldn't need to repeat this but the constant struggle against 1st world countries, the invasions and the attacks are byproducts of USA babysitting Israel
The displaced people have lost everything and the lesser jihad (struggle of the mind) becomes the greater jihad (fight to make the God's word the greatest)
>ITS DA JOOOOOS.. because it just is.. ok??>>3881872Considering how much support they have gathered and how strong they still are, they don't seem to be using the wrong tactics
New cells are emerging constantly and just very recently there was a large network uncovered which connected south Europe and North Africa
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Heckin' unwholesome
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>>3881878https://www.memoriapoliticademexico.org/Textos/6Revolucion/1937MCO.htmlRead up on this and then maybe pick up a book on Synarchism or other European Third Position movements(Falangism, Fascism, National Socialism etc.) Im not saying align whit Synarchism or any of these ideologies, but you will understand other options too
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>>3881883I find it funny youre christian yet you support isis, I remember seeing someone like you on twitter
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>>3881889Which conflict are you talking about?
Boko haram is the most prevalent cell in africa and their main targets are Christians
<picrel to prove I'm not larpinIf you want to discuss Islam, the current or past conflicts of or so, I'm down for a moment before I gotta sleep
>>3881893Check the picture, I don't know who you're talking about
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>>3881887I dont want to be on a ideology to be cataloged as something Im not I have my own ideas and as the song says
Huye jose huye
If I want to start a revolution and be in power I must stay uncorrupt away from masonery and satanism (evendoe thay are the same thing)
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>>3881897Sure, you can still read up on what other people did and said. Synarchism was a very noble nationalist and (altough people think otherwise) pacifist movement. They were persecuted by the goverment for years, yet they only grew in size and spent most of their efforts in making a better Mexico
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>>3881897And buy a trenchcoat if course, you arent a heckin' based leader if you dont have a trenchcoat
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>>3881898It's about hadiths because they're easily debatable but thats not a bad thing
The Quran is the pure word of God, no less and no more
The only caveat is it's written in Arabic and translation cannot convey it's original message, leaving it up to intrepretation - this is where many "gotchas" come from, made by people against Islam
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>>3881896Sever the chain of command and you're left with small armies making up their own commands
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>>3881912I recommend to you these two books, theyre written by a very renown French historian. Topics are self-evident and theyre pretty important reads to understand these two cool topics. They both can be downloaded online via
https://annas-archive.gl/ (trustable site)
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>>3881925Also La Cristiada is a trilogy so certainly not an easy read, i recommend reading the first one first (valga la redundancia) and go from there
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Mexico should be indigenous instead of cucking to spain whom do not like them
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>>3881909Let me ask you a question and im trying to be completely honest here, but is the whole Aisha thing not an undebatable gotcha? Its sourced from the Hadiths, the only way you can make Aisha not be a 9 year old is by selectively rejecting trustable hadiths like Warrior-Z, but at that point would it even be Islam? and how are you gonna selectively reject Hadiths just because you dont like what is said in them? If you are to be a good muslim, you are to accept Aisha and Muhammad married when she was 9 years old
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>>3881893i didnt know someone retarded like that exist
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>>3881941(this is a question, i worded in a way to steelman the idea not to be confrontative geg)
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necrobvmp
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>>3881941The hadiths are collections of tellings of the Prophet, like the Bible
They range from reliable and proven tellings into the 'hearsay' territory, to say it bluntly
<Aisha was young in today's standards when she and the Prophet consumated their marriage
During that time period in Arabia, it wasn't anything out of the ordinary
Aisha and the Prophet's marriage is usually the most debated and most heated topic but it shouldn't be this way, in my opinion
Our Prophet was an example of a way of living and even in today, that holds true
No one is going to consumate a marriage with a 9 year old just because it was normal back then - no one should
You could compare our way of living against the people of ancient Arabia - we don't mix, and on top of all, this is a hadith, not the word of God.
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>>3881985Its not only one Hadith though i believe, and its from a respectable muslim. The moment you start rejecting Hadiths that had already been previously verified you get into a pretty big predicament regarding them
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>>3881985That's not an uncommon take but take it with some caveats
We wouldn't know how to pray without the hadiths and most of them are agreed upon by both sunni and shiite scholars
>>3881996Sunni Islam is the Islam which the vast majority of muslims practice.
I personally believe our Prophet consumated the marriage with Aisha when she was young in today's standards.
Re-read my previous post before you start throwing shit.
I do not condone child marriage.
Shiites have a couple more hadiths but they're weak.
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Not quran i meant hadiths*
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polar deserts won sandniggers lost
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>>3882008No i get it, it still leaves the relevant conclusion that something as awful as pedophilia was practiced by the prophet of Islam. It certianly leads to a pretty interesting debate on what is right to do and what is wrong to do nowadays.
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>Something as awful as pedophilia was practiced by the prophet of Islam
according to our modern standards ofc
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>>3882028It wasn't pedophilia
See
>>3882031You should re-read my two previous posts
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>>3881925Thanks I will look for them
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>>3882070That's what I said.
Our way of living is so much different from ancient Arabia.
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>>3882082So Muhammad had pedophilic relations whit a 9 year old right?
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>>3882087He did not.
See
>>3881971 &
>>3882008 and post something of substance.
You're either baiting me, twisting my words or my meaning isn't reaching you.
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>>3882099Muhammad was a cradle snatcher and (you)'re a nigger.
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>>3882105I'm whiter than you
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>>3882099I just searched up the definition of pedophilia, you are right. didnt know a text-book definition of pedophilia tbh, wasnt trying to bait you
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>>3882110Are you whiter than your somali mudslime bvll who ass fucks you daily, my little muslim sympathizer?
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>>3882013Look brother, in Islam there is no age limit for marriage. What matters is reaching puberty (bulugh) and maturity (rushd). Look at the tafsir of Surah An-Nisa, verse 6; whichever tafsir it may be, it says these things regarding the expression "age of marriage." Women can reach puberty much earlier than men, and in hot climates puberty is also entered more quickly. Our Prophet waited 3 years before consummating the marriage. This waiting was not a random delay; it was so that Hz. Aisha would fully meet the requirements. As for the situation before those 3 years, it is as follows: if the guardian wishes, he may contract a marriage (nikah) for his child who has not yet reached puberty with someone else. However, this is not a complete marriage. When the child reaches puberty, he/she is given the right to object; this is called the option of puberty (bulugh muhayyerligi). (There is disagreement about this, but if there is a possibility of harm, he/she can definitely object; there is no disagreement on this point.)
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>>3882127You can scroll up and see the picrel I sent of my Quran.
My feet is in there.
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>>>3881941
THINGS THAT HURT ZVTTLIMS!
>They can't eat delicious bacon (That would be cannibalism)
>Their "Prophet" got ZVTTED by a hoarde of niggers
>Their "Prophet" married a aisha
>ZVTTLIMS drink alcohol in secret
>ZVTTLIMS actually believe they will have a crowd of virgins in heaven
>They rape children and pretend to be against it
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>>3882194Stop sucking sandnigger pecker
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>>3882194Its like 7 AM on Helsinki right now geg, did you stay up overnight or something?
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>>3882202A horrible file, kept me up to respond back
>>3882204I'm not
>>3882206Yes, the last day of my summer holiday
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>>3882224Yeah you should go to sleep bro, good night and God bless you
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>>3882224Sleep and
NEVER wake up.
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>>3882244Samewise.
I wanted to drop this file earlier but it's too large for the sharty so here's a link which lasts for 3 days.
>psyp7cz4ob7nltg7.mp4^I just got a 15min ban for attempting to link a file hosting site url.If you know how litterbox works, grab the gem. Otherwise, leave it.
I'm that anon which dropped the full Juba CD collection on the previous jawla thread a couple of months ago.
I do prefer these proper debates over baseless shit flinging.
>>3882246My fate is in the hands of my Creator
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Up nigga
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Hey Salt please ban these pisslamfails
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Super sage
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>>3883200WA KALA HITLER! gotta be the best one
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>>3883196where's the one about george floyd
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>>3883255I look like this and say this
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>>3881628 (OP)ISIL are disbelieving apostates.
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>>3885829They're not, they're misguided
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>>3885835They are murji'ah, jahmiyyah, and khawarij.
I can bring you so many statements from the salaf takfiring all of those groups.
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>>3885825Stop posting Hamaslop. They are secular kuffar faggots
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>>3885845Yes they are and they allied with da'ish.
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>>3885845Just shot my shot as this video really is lost media
>>3885841Elaborate on your statement, I'd be keen to hear more
Disbelieving apostates isn't a word I'd use
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>>3885866Ok first
>murji'ahThey excuse these idol worshippung nations
>jahmiyyahThey dont takfir the ashariah
>khawarijThey beleiving judging by other than Allah's law is kufr akbar.
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>>3885884Isn't their law the shariah?
>They dont takfir the ashariahWhere's this from?
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>>3885841Acthually you literally cannot be murji'ah and khawarij at the same time. That's like calling someone a vegan meat-eater.The Khawarij believe actions define your faith (which is why they kill gay niggers), while the murji'ah believe actions don't matter at all as long as you have faith in your heart. Also, calling ISIL jahmiyyah is hilarious because ISIL follows strict literalist salafi theology, making them the exact opposite.
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>>3885910Is bro trying to teach me π€£π€£π€£
First of all believing Actions is a part of faith is a belief of the Sunnis. The khawarij believe major sins take you out of Islam. They are khawarij in one aspect for their belief in hakmiyyah ie believing it is kufr akbar. And in another aspect they are murji'ah for refusing to make takfir upon the apostate nations and the asharis and other mushrikin.
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The belief of the Sunnis is that judging by other than Allah's law is disbelief, but it is not disbelief that takes one out of Islam. The khawarij like da'ish say it is.
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>>3885933They are Sunni muslim and not disbelieving apostates, like you said
A disbelieving apostate would have to knowingly break their faith
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>>3885901>>3885939Many of them excuse the apostate sect known as asharis.
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>>3885947We takfir anyone who falls into kufr akbar while they are responsible. And they have commited kufr akbar many times. According to your logic if someone beliefs they are Muslim but believes jesus is a god who it is permissible to worship, they can allegedly be Muslim, audhubillahi min dhalik.
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>>3885958You're just putting words into my mouth at this point
You didn't refute my point and it still stands, they're a group of misguided Sunnis
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all of you are larping niggas you dont even know usus al takfir
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>>3885933you are calling them murji'ah because they supposedly refuse to make takfir on apostate nations and Asharis? Are you mountain nigger(kurd) ?
ISILs entire global brand is extreme, blanket takfir. They literally made takfir on al-Qaeda for not being extreme enough. They make takfir on saudi arabia, turkey, every single arab government, and they spent years slaughtering asharis, sufis, and shia across Syria and Iraq for being 'mushrikin'. Saying ISIL 'refuses to make takfir' is for clity muslims& western leftist faggs.
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>>3886035Listen boy, for example the gulf nations. The consider the gulf goverments to be apostate, which is true, but they don't takfir the gulf nations.
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>>3886063You clearly don't understand what Irja (Murji'ah theology) actually is. Irja is the belief that actions do not nullify faith. ISIL believes that voting, working for the state, joining the military, or even just opposing their caliphate completely nullifies your faith and makes your blood halal. That is peak action-based takfir (kharijism).
Just because ISIL doesnt make a blanket takfir on literally every single housewife, child, and bystander in Saudi Arabia doesn't magically make them 'Murji'ah'. By your hilariously flawed logic, anyone who doesn't takfir all 8 billion people on planet Earth is a Murji'ah.
They slaughtered thousands of average Sunni civilians and tribesmen (like the Al-Shaitat tribe) simply because they didn't pledge Bay'ah to Baghdadi. You tried to threw ancient sandnigger buzwords you don't understand to cope with modern jihad sadly for you, i studied islam at a young age
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>>3886127 whoever does not takfir the vast majority of the 2 billion people who claim islam is a murji'
Btw ISIL themself said they don't takfir everyone who does not give Bayah. It was The Hazimis who killed those who claim To be Sunni because of takfir ul adhir (which is haqq)
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>>3886140you just completely outed yourself. You started this thread trying to sound like a western fags distancing Islam from ISIL, but you literally just endorsed the Hazimis-the most psychotic, extremist splinter faction within ISIL. "The Hazimis were so unhinged with their 'chain takfir' that they started takfiring Baghdadi and ISIL's own leadership" which is why ISIL purged them.
By classical mudslime standards, You are the ultimate extreme Khariji.
You're not defending traditional Islam; you're just mad that mainstream ISIL wasnt bloodthirsty enough for your hazimi sandniggers
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>>3886203He said the exact opposite nigger. Are you retarded?
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>>3886234dear latin-sandnigger he said:
>"whoever does not takfir the vast majority of the 2 billion people is a murji">"takfir ul adhir (which is haqq)" β3886944[Quote]
>>3885866>Elaborate on your statement, I'd be keen to hear more>Disbelieving apostates isn't a word I'd useHamas litterally supports voting and their founder said he would allow the Commies to take over if the majority of Palis vote for them. They also defend Christians, allow them to go to church and don't force any Jizya on them. They are allies with the Shia. They are nationalist. They killed Salafis etc. etc.
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>>3883200Sheikh Uthman is a Madkhali stop posting that normieslop too.
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>>3885741For every literal who these faggots beat down a little more then 10 Jewropeans have been killed in attacks geg
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Send more nasheeds boys
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kys pedo worshippers
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i also bump xhis thread
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>>3887160
wrong again nigger
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i saw that geg
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>>3887161I've never successfully bumped a thread how do i do it and I've been on here for years