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Most people here believe monarchy and traditional representative democracy as exists in the contemporary world are intrinsically pozzed, so what should replace them?

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>>3542311 (OP)
We at /pol/ are for this system

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OG monarchism. Absolute louis xiv type beat with racial aristocrat caste in his court

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Because democrats offered faux liberty ie lgbt rights while supressing the tea party via irs so chuds switched to authority systems like fascism or natsocism
>inb4 monarchy authority
Im usin da hoppe arguement

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Pardon my ebonics

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>>3542315
I'm not, although I'm ok with parts of that like
>meritocratic limited representative government
I was thinking a mixture of the Venetian Republic's system of leaders elected for life mixed with competing tripartite powers, Swiss-style citizens' referendums, and something resembling the American Bill of Rights.

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Like everything in life some things are better mixed,but not race

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Anarchism

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Labour zionism.

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Schwabian NWO is the ideal modern form of government.

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>>3542332
Is this because you're also concerned with elite incentives and long run second and third order effects?
America's system initially seemed to be modeled after the Great Republic.

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>>3542311 (OP)
Id say im a classical liberal akin to tocqueville and henry adams

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>>3542356
>Is this because you're also concerned with elite incentives and long run second and third order effects?
Yeah.
>>3542364
>America's system initially seemed to be modeled after the Great Republic.
Isn't 'the Great Republic' used to refer to the JewSA?

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>>3542393
I think
Roman republic

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>>3542328
@wpr
Do ya agree

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>>3542364
I like agree with the sentiment, but I didn't mean to reply to you a moment ago sorry.

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Nothing, just kill the government. The government has zero incentive to not waste resources, and through private communities in tandem with culturally conservative values, people will be able to take care of their own lives however they think is best without big daddy government giving them an assfucking in the form of taxation, all while still enforcing an honorable way of living.
The one redeeming quality with monarchy is that you can establish a good traditionalist society more easily, since the leader serves as a cultural icon. It's also much easier to figure out who led the country to its downfall by pointing at the guy with the crown.
One thing I don't quite understand is how you stop people from going back to democracy. If you get a series of bad leaders, the people might assume that keeping someone on the throne for more than 10 or so years is not ideal and that having a revolving door of kings and queens is better than just keeping the guy in power even if he's not great, so basically democracy all over again.

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>>3542328
>>3542405
Kind of ig. The Tea Party moment always sucked though, unless you count the very beginning of it when it was briefly a Ron Paul thing.

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>>3542416
Yah im referring to the old rp era

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dictatorship with me at the helm

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>>3542420
I still don't think I follow. The GOP has always been ass. Even during the thirties, the best of Roosevelt's Old Right opposition came from the Democratic Party.

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>>3542393
I meant like an aristocratic sorr of system, modeled off of ancient roman republic, that's what that's called

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>>3542438
Rp = ron paul
My bad for not being coherent

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>>3542440
You mean Caesar's Legion?

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>>3542440
So basically Plato's Republic?
>>3542446
Dw about it.

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>>3542447
Nationalist totalitarian dictatorship,the goverment controls your movement basically

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>>3542457
Maybe no philosopher kings, Idk if that's full "aristocracy", they still had other jobs

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>>3542463
Real aristocracy has never been tried.

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>>3542477
I actually say this

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>>3542477
Do you have any recommened reading on the subject

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>>3542477
That's a good thing,what if I wasnt the one in the good class,or my mom huh??

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Btw, WPR I think you undermine propaganda (effective and based on correct grounds) as an effective state crafting technique, it's basically how North Korea is able to survive, but imagine if it was white supremacist and meritocracy based, with scrubbing the obsessive millitarism if need be off of Volksaufklarung Propaganda. It fixes like at least 50% of problems with individual incentives, while maybe limiting personal liberties in the short term

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>>3542479
Nordic as fuck.
>>3542483
Sucks to be you idk. I wasn't advocating aristocracy, at least not as it's understood in our era. It used to have a connotation very similar to meritocracy.
>>3542486
I've dwelled on the potential necessity of a temporary vanguard. I have the obvious concerns that come with the idea though.

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>>3542480
@wpr
bro….

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>>3542480
Either you're born with it or you're not

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>>3542501
Not off the top of my head, maybe Aristotle's Politics.

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>>3542508
So you believe in naturaly slavery?

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military dictatorship

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>>3542523
Fuggen self-ownership.

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>>>3542513
>No.

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>>>3542513
>No.

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>>3542532
You think everyone is ready for self ownership? And rational in regards to self ownership?

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>>3542499
Another thing I always forget when thinking about state crafting because It's so unintuitive is the fact that in a winning scenario you would just teach race science in schools(effective propaganda) so 80% of problems wouldn't exist and high time preference and selfish acts would lessen on their own. Really everything is just limited because we live in the worst possible timeline post-WW2Cult, even a nuclar war in the 80s would be better by now.

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>>3542533
Obsessed gringo.
>>3542537
After a few years of unlearning globalist nigger Jew nonsense, Whites will be, yeah.

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>>3542542
What caused this post ww2 world? Other than nazis losing ofc but why did it all go like this?

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>>>3542533 (You)
>Obsessed gringo.
>>>3542537 (You)
>After a few years of unlearning globalist nigger Jew nonsense, Whites will be, yeah.

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>>3542548
i think youre way too lenient on how retarded whites can get with too much "freedom" geg

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>>3542548
Have you heard of the Kallikak family?
>Goddard tracked the descendants of Martin Kallikak, an American Revolutionary War soldier. Martin had a child with a "feeble-minded" barmaid, and later married a respectable Quaker woman. Goddard claimed this split produced two very different family lines.
So it isnt exclusive to non whites, and should non whites be enslaved?

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>>3542554
America being the barer of victory post the WW2 Event, withcan already entrenched post-FDR egalitarian elite and egalitarian ideology slowy spreading though the developed-now rebuilding world. The answer to the Nazi ideology was obvious, totoal denoucnment of "eugenics" and explicit explanations for dysfunction, etc etc..

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>>3542572
So everyones liberty is equal?

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>>>3542567 (You)
>No.

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I'd be all in for the most strict authoritarianism if there was some sort of way to make sure the leaders aren't self-serving.

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>>3542581
Thats fair but its in a survival of the fittest type right? No civil rights so right to discriminate?

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>>3542585
Pretty much, think Herbert Spencer's argumentative line in Social Statics.

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>>3542590
What do you say for the egalitarian libertarians? Why is their thinking incorrect?

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>>3542591
Freedom of association (and disassociation) as well as a nation's right to self-determination trump any economic or "ethical" objections to the existence of borders.

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>>3542599
Why do you even belive in natural rights? There is no such thing as self-ownership. Do you justify this though argumentation ethics?



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