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(I AM NOT AN AISHA APOLOGIST!!!! THIS IS JUST MY OPINION ON MORAL SUBJECTIVITY!!!!! I DO NOT CONDONE PEDOPHILIA IN THE SLIGHTEST!!!!!!)
Aisha being 9 is not a valid debunking of Islam, as morality is subjective. What may seem immoral to a Muslim (drinking or keeping a dog as examples) would seem perfectly fine to someone (You) that isn't a Muslim, vice versa with Aisha. What I'm trying to say is, that if the Islamic faith does not believe that intercourse with a 9 year old is immoral, then Aisha being 9 is an invalid debunking of a faith. If you want to debunk Islam, bring up the fact that Ramadan straight up doesn't function on the poles, as the sun doesn't set for 6 months, making every arctic Muslim starve to death.
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>>3538783
>>3538784
Is this like a psychologically proven fact? I've never heard of something like this. an actually impassable mental barrier

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Even if its maybe not inherently a pedo religion, pedophilia and child marriage is normalized in many islamic countries. If a religion allows for this sort of normalization then theres something wrong.
Also most muzzies will eventually resort to aisha apologism if they get pushed into that corner hard enough.

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>>3538788
Apology accepted good kitten

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>>3538791
this is what we mean when we say immigrants should stay in their countries, but people call us racist. our cultures are simply that incompatable

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>>3538790
>Many Uyghur Muzzies literally mind broke after forcibly consumed Pork in China.

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>>3538790
you know how you have deep memories of beloved situations? imagine that but with how muslims love muhabbed being a pedo.

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>>3538790
it is not really a psychologically proven fact but it is widely known that midwits and retards are basically impossible to convince
especially when it comes to something that they have wasted their entire lives on and lived in a echo chamber
maybe you could tie it to actual measurable neuroplasticity o algo
psychology is fake and gay regardless

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>>3538798
to what extent were they mindbroken?
>>3538799
I'm pretty sure I could be convinced that those situations were a detriment, or bad doe? Given enough proof that is

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>>3538803
This reminded me of the phenomenon of cognitive dissonance, but the effect being that strong just feels kinda off. You could totally be right doe

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>>3538804
i mean you could go ahead and have a try, i'm not stopping you but you aren't gonna get where you think you are gonna get.

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>>3538804
>I'm pretty sure I could be convinced
well you are not like them
they literally will blow themselves up defending this

>Your universe has no meaning to them. They will not try to understand. They will be tired, they will be cold, they will make a fire with your beautiful oak door.

o algo

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>>3538814
huh, I don't really have a rebuttal to that. YOU WIN!!!!
Go to this link, to own the 'slimes! https://soyjak.st/pol/thread/3538663.html

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>>3538821
i dont have anything new to bring to the table doe. i just know a lot about retards, and from knowing that, i know it is impossible to own them. you would only redpill those who are questioning o algo which is still good

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>>3538821
my opsec powers detect i might be retarded and this might be a ipgrabber

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>>3538829
Retard gods…

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>>3538804
>Some survivors reported being forced to eat pork "every Friday," while others reported it appeared "once or twice a week" in their food, often disguised or mixed in.

You can imagine by the news reports.

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>>3538835
>survivers
And all they did was eat pork geg

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>>3538835
This feels really mean. I kinda feel sorry for them.

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>>3538846
you're done blud.

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>>3538849
>being forced to eat meat is le bad
moralbrapps do we weally?

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Everybaldi knows this. But the entire point is that you either have to concede by saying marrying 9 year olds is justified, thus justifying pedophilia or denounce the faith

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>>3538862
wdym? that's the spiffing brit, not me

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>>3538865
Xey didn't want to eat ze meat doe!

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>>3538864
And what is the voice?

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>>3538846
>>3538829
hes lying to you, "soyjak.st" is an ip grabber

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>>3538874
neither did aisha want to be raped doe
>>3538868
no shit but geg that would be funny

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>>3538875
the spiffing brit. It's his voice,
>>3538879
two wrongs don't make a right. especially if the second wrong happens like 1500 years after

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>>3538885
out of all the injustices in the world to cares fan aboud why is being forced to break ones retarded religious rules a serious one? its snca. If i was in their position i would be begging for their meat coz free protein.

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>>3538885
spiffing brit is bvsed and christpilled

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also i love all of his videos

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>also i love all of his videos

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>>3538889
I was directly exposed to it. They didn't do so willingly. If someone forces you to do something, than it was an inherently immoral act. the act that you perform, is morally neutral at best, while they do a an immoral act, no matter what they force you to do

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>>3538840
They had to do alot shits by the way not only eating porks

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>>3538905
i am aware that the forcing and violation of ones free will is intrinsically evil. however not all evils are the same
drop in the ocean
snca
im sure much worse was done
and i know it wasnt willingly.
but if i was in their position i would change my worldview and accept it instead of being a defiant pissbaby with a persecution complex

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>>3538905
Wait, you have interaction with Muslim in real life? What's your thoughts on them in Germany?

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>>3538912
I mean, it's pretty easy to say that, when you don't believe in it doe. Imagine you were being forced to convert to Islam, instead of giving it up

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>>3538920
Well, i wouldnt. I just wouldnt.

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>>3538919
Meh, had some muslim friends in my old school, there were some HUUUUGE shitheads, that were muslims also. they were super violent and loud and retarded and whatnot. There were some gemmy 'slims, doe

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>>3538846
Is that the big spif i hear

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>>3538929
Fuggen cuck… FUGGEN GUTMENSCH CUCK GET HIM!!!!!

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>>3538931
yes
>>3538935
RAAAAAAAAHHHH

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>>3538929
I see I see

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>Aisha being 9 is not a valid debunking of Islam, as morality is subjective.

When people are talking about morality, they are not just discussing ideas, they are passionately arguing, trying to show that the other person is mistaken about what behaviors are right or wrong, not just different. A difference of opinion is compatible with another opinion fine just fine, but morality is not like this. If there is conflict between two moral worldviews, then one is clearly more moral than the other, but you couldn't say that for ice cream flavors. The closest thing you can do is provide a statistical model which shows which ice cream flavor is more preferred, but that's about it. You can't reason yourself into proving that one ice cream flavor is objectively the best. Morality is not experienced like a mere preference. The wrongness that man feels in the face of cruelty doesn't register to him the same way as hearing about someone else's favorite ice cream flavor, but rather like precognition about something grounded in reality. When you hear about the Mayans and how they sacrificed people in order to make rain fall, you don't just think "Well, that's how they lived their life", but react in disgust and horror.
It's also worth noting that most moral arguments have a logical structure to their justifications and explanations, including premises, conclusions and contradictions (either logical or tautological). If "murder is wrong" means "I dislike murder" then on a similar vein, "murder is good" means "I like murder", meaning that moral disagreements are impossible. And yet, we are having this conversation fine just fine.
Lastly, even if we assume that morality is indeed subjective, founding a society which is grounded in objective morals is not only a good idea, it's a necessary idea. Imagine how long society would last if everyone could do everything because it's to the eye of the interpreter. Just because something is logical doesn't mean it's practical.

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>>Aisha being 9 is not a valid debunking of Islam, as morality is subjective.
>
>When people are talking about morality, they are not just discussing ideas, they are passionately arguing, trying to show that the other person is mistaken about what behaviors are right or wrong, not just different. A difference of opinion is compatible with another opinion fine just fine, but morality is not like this. If there is conflict between two moral worldviews, then one is clearly more moral than the other, but you couldn't say that for ice cream flavors. The closest thing you can do is provide a statistical model which shows which ice cream flavor is more preferred, but that's about it. You can't reason yourself into proving that one ice cream flavor is objectively the best. Morality is not experienced like a mere preference. The wrongness that man feels in the face of cruelty doesn't register to him the same way as hearing about someone else's favorite ice cream flavor, but rather like precognition about something grounded in reality. When you hear about the Mayans and how they sacrificed people in order to make rain fall, you don't just think "Well, that's how they lived their life", but react in disgust and horror.
>It's also worth noting that most moral arguments have a logical structure to their justifications and explanations, including premises, conclusions and contradictions (either logical or tautological). If "murder is wrong" means "I dislike murder" then on a similar vein, "murder is good" means "I like murder", meaning that moral disagreements are impossible. And yet, we are having this conversation fine just fine.
>Lastly, even if we assume that morality is indeed subjective, founding a society which is grounded in objective morals is not only a good idea, it's a necessary idea. Imagine how long society would last if everyone could do everything because it's to the eye of the interpreter. Just because something is logical doesn't mean it's practical.
Greeks haven't lost their philosophical capabilties.

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>>3539205
This is true, but reminder that this is only on the basis of arguing whether something is wrong or good. The moral arguments of Results/punishments of a wrong action are not really the same
So the statement that morality is subjective is neither wrong or right

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>>3539207
Thank you.
>on a similar vein
Man, I'm quite the ESL



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