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give example
â„–3529582[Quote]
>>3529574Sure, but first explain why you think it's not valid. Then I'll give you an example
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>>3529582cuz when debating u have to set specific conditions for something to be true or false. if u change the definition by moving the goal post, whats the point of debating.
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>>3529595not that i like debating anyways. im nietzschean bvll i think you should just kill people you disagree with enough
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>>3529595Alright, but first tell me do you think every single debate has to be about finding objective truth? Because if it's just about winning an argument, then moving the goalpost totally works. So unless you can prove debates are never about winning, my point still stands
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>>3529605Debates aren't about winning. Debates are about learning and adapting to others point of view, they're useful to enrich your own ideas and build a proper opinion.
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>>3529622Okay, but if debates are about learning, then you first have to show you actually learned something from what I said. So tell me one thing you learned from my last response. Then I'll keep going.
â„–3529653[Quote]
>>3529632Hep hep… each answers makes me learn from you. But the knowledge comes at the conclusion, a retarded debate wont make you learn as much thing as a deep and interested one.
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>>3529605there's only winning under shared definitions. if u cant agree about some level of objectivity then you're like two cacas at playground, one pretending to be knight and other pretending to be cowboy… the game doesnt work…
it can be about winning as in convicing the other, sometimes its just for brain enrichment like frankreichGOD said.but both these things require a shared objectivity. maybe not objective truth but at least shared understanding of how world works and is, because most people could not care less for objective trvth
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>>3529622Maybe 100 years ago they were. But when debates started being transmitted through radio or tv to the goyim rather than being only to the people present, it clearly became a pride thing, amd with that, it became about winning. The average citizen is too retarded to understand it's about building knowledge, more like sparring than a fight.
Snd it has only gotten worse of course bc now any retard can do it whereas in the past you needed to be somewhat educated at the very least.
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>>3529653So first you gotta prove that moving the goalpost automatically makes a debate 'retarded.' Because if you can't prove that, then you're just assuming your own point. Go ahead show me the proof.
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What do you do if someone moves the goslpost on you?
I want to try it myself
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>>3529572 (OP)Advanced bait
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>>3529719Alright, so first you gotta give me a real-life example of a debate where two people fully agreed on 'shared understanding' from the start. Because if you can't, then you're just describing a fantasy, not how actual arguments work.
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>>3529744Im not saying that debate is retarded… but you see, you keep displacing the goalpost and this renders the debate absolutely useless. If there is no goal then there is no conclusion then there's nothing. All the above confirm what Im saying and therefore ending the current phase of this request.
â„–3529776[Quote]
>>3529632>>3529744>>3529753Are you pasting our answers into zogpt and asking him to find a way to bitch us around?
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>>3529776yes he is
did u seriously think you'd have a good convo on soyjak.st?
i know i did too just ignore it
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>>3529725Every debate is worthy of their debaters. Two retards arguing about retarded things see that as a key thing to their thinking. The only unworthy debates are the one, as you said, scripted by the kikes on medias to entertain people. Tho, watching those debates makes you learn about how modern society thinks so its not that useless
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>>3529783You cant be sure if you never try for a couple times. I dont like going on 4pol because they're either actually brain dead and will adapt to anything you say or they seem to have a huge knowledge that you cant even question because their confidence and literature backs it up too well
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>>3529806I have life changing exams in 4 days, so I dont have any classes until then. I should be studying, but my zogged brain cannot bother trying to, even if i cut myself from screens.
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>>3529822mdrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr i also won't study for the bac gegegegegegegeg what a coincidence
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>>3529879
Shitting* uhm
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im sorry for lying about being a caca to get u to admit u are one to get u banned lil bro.
u need to study.
this is the only life you've got. you're blessed to be smart. you can do this. You'll succeed and you'll look back happy. And then new struggles will come and you'll succeed at that too. Again and again and forever et pour toujours.
o algo
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>>3529949Im in terminale, im not a caca
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>>3529949Thanks for the validation doe. I hope you pass it too
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>>3529969Its too late, im going to sleep. Maybe tomorrow