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>>3437364one man can hold you down two can rape you. LOCK IN BROTHER
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>guys god loves all of us or something! yeah anyway people who werent even born are in eternal agony and god chose to do that lol
the absolute STATE of mainstream christians lmao
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Apokalyptic isn't even a monotheist, he identifies as an esoteric christo-pagan
β3437384[Quote]
>>3437382no foids lil nigger
β3437385[Quote]
Kkkill those crackkkers π
β3437389[Quote]
>>3437374most modern christcucks would endorse race mixing with a brown nigger but scream satanic if they save a white man trying to protect his race/ethnicity
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>>3437382Whats the tranime girls name
β3437394[Quote]
>>3437382Because white chuds are obsessed with their inability to BREED.
>>3437384just see this
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>>3437382Whats the tranime girls mame
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>>3437389deport on birth, it's simple.
β3437413[Quote]
>>3437394>user is a spainigger>praises bnwo the joke writes itself
β3437454[Quote]
Your aborted nigger rape brother
>YO WAS GUUD MA BROTHA,LETS GO STEAL DA BAG AND SOLD DE CRACK AND SHIIEETT
β3437478[Quote]
>>3437392>>3437409okita souji
imgOps is right there you silly serb!
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>>3437478I don't want tranime girls on my SSerbia phon
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>>3437511do these niggas just collect rare ist's and ism's lol
β3437577[Quote]
>>3437346 (OP)It's actually possible these children do not go to Heaven, unfortunately. You have to understand that Heaven is a gift none of us are deserving of, including aborted children. God, in His infinite mercy, may have spared them, but it's also possible they were cast into Hell, body and spirit.
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>>3437577according to chudism dead white babies go to Heaven whilst dead nigger babies go to hell
β3437585[Quote]
>>3437577please read what you just said over and over again until you realise how fucking insane you sound
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>>3437577Salvific claims are heretical. Are you a heretic?
β3437590[Quote]
>>3437585It sounds like the most rational thing in the world. The only thing man deserves is eternal hellfire. It is only by the infinite river of grace and mercy flowing from God that man may receive the Kingdom of Heaven.
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>>3437586I said "entirely possible" not for certain. I don't see any sound logic suggesting murdered children are Heavenbound on the grounds they were murdered.
β3437604[Quote]
>>3437590So what you should say is "I dunno bruh", not "yeah the blended baby slushie could be sent to hell, because they might very committed a mortal sin in the womb".
β3437605[Quote]
>>3437590and why exactly does man deserve that? because they are sinners? who gave man the urge to sin? it wasnt satan and even if it was by proxy it would have been god, because he is all powerful and all knowing and nothing can be done without his approval
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>>3437604I said it's very possible. I am not going to try and tell some abortioness that her child is in a better place for certain. I pray the child is but we don't know.
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>>3437609God is just and merciful. What justice and mercy is given to a blended baby slushie?
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>>3437605Even if we didn't sin, we wouldn't deserve Heaven. Heaven is the Kingdom of God. If we were sinless, we would not deserve Hell, but still not deserve Heaven. God is Creator and reserves the right to destroy His creation.
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>>3437612The baby still has a sinful nature and may have trangressed in the spirit. The wages of sin is death.
β3437621[Quote]
>>3437618π you are gnostic
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>>3437618i dont even know what to say to this lmao
β3437630[Quote]
>>3437621Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in[a] Christ Jesus our Lord.
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>>3437630christibros are we weally this delusional
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>>3437632SHUT
>>3437630Go ahead and explain how this is applicable.
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>>3437633Well the Bible shows that man is born sinful.
Psalms 51:5
Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.
Romans says the wages of sin is death. Death is Hell.
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Genesis 25:22-23
"The children struggled together within her, and she said, 'If it is thus, why is this happening to me?' So she went to inquire of the Lord. And the Lord said to her, 'Two nations are in your womb, and two peoples from within you shall be divided; the one shall be stronger than the other, the older shall serve the younger.'"
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>>3437636You dont know of the first death, and the resurrection through the holy spirit of the soul.
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>>3437639A baby =/= a child.
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>>3437640Man can be saved through God's grace. Keyword CAN. We don't know if murdered babies are saved. I pray they are but it is God's choice. Even if God casts them into Hell, body and spirit He is just and right in doing so.
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>>3437642Untrue, thats
(((freemasonic))) protestantism
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>>3437641Those verses refer to them in the womb. The soul may be born unaltered while the flesh ages.
β3437646[Quote]
>>3437615>if we were sinlessbut we arent. you said god has infinite mercy, how is it infinitely merciful to make a creature that finds it almost impossible to resist sin but send them to hell if they do not resist. sure we might not deserve heaven because heaven in god's home, fair enough, but why do we deserve hellfire because of something that god himself did to us. doesnt that sound cruel? would you do something like that even though you are a fallen human and god supposedly has infinite times more love than you do. and im sorry if my post comes off as standoffish im really trying to understand this
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>>3437643Who was sinless and destined for heaven before Christ, salvation?
>>3437645Why are you desperate to damn a unborn baby to hell?
β3437648[Quote]
>>3437644what sin could something unborn accumulate? it would require something like reincarnation
β3437650[Quote]
>>3437646All God does is good and just. It's his nature. Man may perceive it as wrong but that is due to our altered nature. What's wrong is somebody being so narcissistic that they think they are more moral than the Creator and Judge of the universe.
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>>3437647>Why are you desperate to damn a unborn baby to hell?Jee i wonder who could be behind his posts…
β3437654[Quote]
>>3437648What hes trying to say is the old testament (true, but thats the old covenant) perspective of judgement given to your father is also passed down to you.
β3437656[Quote]
>>3437654even doe sins of the father is old larps
β3437657[Quote]
>>3437648There is the sinful nature. Secondly, its possible the soul is born formed and may trangress against the LORD. The Bible mentions David served the Lord from the moment he left the womb suggesting he was already a believer. St. John the Baptist received the Holy Ghost in the womb and worshipped God while unborn showing some infants do submit to the Divine Will before birth.
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>>34376562000 year old ass granpa larps
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>>3437657a newborn knows nothing but to cry. If you believe their soul is created at conception, then it still applies. They are innocent. They have never seen the evil done under the sun and thus cannot in any way transgress, as they know nothing
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>>3437657>sinful natureWe with the capacity and will to be good and righteous contend against our nature.
You
VVILL understand grace, whether you like it or not.
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>>3437650what am i even supposed to say to this ππ i really hope pipo like you snap out of this brainwashed buckbroken state of mind
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>>3437665>>3437668>>3437676I believe it is possible an infant may accept God's grace or deny it at the time right before judgement. Please be patient I have autism.
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>>3437683>Please be patient I have autism.I am sorry.
β3437686[Quote]
>>3437676Jesus loves you or something like that along those lines
β3437695[Quote]
>>3437657….. the short answer is, and what you ought to say, 'i dont know'. To discuss and to proclaim are two very different things. To even claim that someone baby or not, may or may not receive salvation is a heretical perspective. Because textually, historically, and from the saints, you cannot say.
<redditchristianTell me one example of iniquity a baby could've committed against God.
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>>3437683>Please be patient I have autism.Aryan
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I just brutally aborted 9283453049532903857345 christian dnbs just the past second ama
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>>3437700failtroll meme kys
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context saar
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>>3437695A baby has a sinful nature and may trangress in the spirit.
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Christbros do D[…]Bs go to hell because they didn't accept Jewsus chrike?
β3437773[Quote]
transchristpill
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>>3437756Name one iniquity (transgression against God) that a baby can commit.
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>>3437762Is free will inherent to a soul, and something that begins at conception, or is it more neurological/physical? Do babies or people in vegetative states/with severe brain damage or retardation have free will under Christianity? There's also a debate to have about whether true free will even exists, especially with an all-knowing God.
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>>3437782Baby cant do dat doe
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>>3437781Kavka's toxin puzzle
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>>3437778I believe it is possible the soul of an unborn infant may reject God's grace which is a rejection of God and is sinful.
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>>3437781Do you have free will to stop growing hair or your nails?
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>>3437791Man only has control over his mind
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>>3437781I think it is possible that the soul has free will from enrollment onward.
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>>3437793Because we see the unborn St. John the Baptist worship and receive the LORD. It is also implied David did as well.
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>>3437794You've never thought something you didnt want to?
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>>3437796>enrollmentEnsoulment
Autocorrect
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>>3437800God had a plan for them, because he knew they'd accept them when they were older. God had a plan for them, because they would have faith.
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>>3437810But what if they do deny in the LORD in their natural existence?
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>>3437836>what if a baby denies the will of God's grace in the womb?Before personhood, mercy is abound.
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>>3437846Do we know that for certain? I generally would say God would spare the unborn but we don't know for certain. Even if HE didn't, hellfire would still be a Just punishment for the unborn.
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>Even if HE didn't, hellfire would still be a Just punishment for the unborn.
explain to me how this is just and good
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>>3437865For example, I can say "I am more confident there is slave owners in Heaven than aborted infants."
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>>3437876All that God does is Just and good therefore God casting the unborn body and soul into Hell would be Just and good.
β3437883[Quote]
>>3437881this has to be a troll. GET OUT OF HERE TROLL!!!
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>>3437346 (OP)why would aborted fetuses go to hell? this seems retarded and misinterpretation of the bible.
what would i know doe, im agnostic
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>>3437886Number one they are babies not just "fetuses"
Number two, they possibly have not accepted God's grace so we are unsure what happens to them.
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>>3437883Many slave owners were moral and devoted Christian men like Robert E Lee. While I can not comment to the moral character of an aborted infant.
β3437891[Quote]
>>3437889muh unsure pedantry SNCA semantic Schroedingers cat autistic babbling
SNCA
ITS FUCKING SNCA
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>>3437865>Do we know that for certain?Psalm 139:13
Jeremiah 1:5
Psalm 127:3
Exodus 21:22-23
2 Corinthians 1:3
Luke 18:15-16
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>>3437382Because nophono cares about ANBs being turned into DNBs, not even niggers.
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>>3437889>Number one they are babies not just "fetuses"theyre babies when theyre born, when theyre inside the mothers womb theyre fetuses
while im in favor of abortion being legal, i dont think that its ethically correct before you call me any names.
>Number two, they possibly have not accepted God's grace so we are unsure what happens to them.i really doubt they would go to hell honestly
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>>3437893Yes. Note how God says He knew them in the womb. Meaning their souls may be aware and so they may transgress. I generally hold most infants probably go to Heaven but we can't know and it would not be wrong for God to judge them as they are guilty.
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>>3437902Read
The
Rest
Of
Them
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>>3437908I did. I don't see how these strengthen your argument that all infants go to Heaven.
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>>3437890im not talking about slave owners, i agree with you on that there is nothing stopping a slave owner from being kind and underdstanding of his slaves. im talking about how you said its good and just for god to send an unborn baby (who doesnt have the ability to do anything, including sin) to eternal agony and torment
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>>3437914I could see the argument that only infants who accept Jesus Christ as their LORD and Savior go to Heaven from these verses.
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>>3437915Do we know babies can't sin?
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>>3437914>your argument When did I actually ever say this? I am saying there is zero ANYTHING to claim that a baby can have the capacity to damn themselves to hell.
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>>3437918you have a gigaquoting addiction aussiefren please seek medical attention
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I'm not a theology expert but I'm sure God wouldn't allow infants to be sent into the actual lake of fire.
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>>3437911Exodus 20:4
"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth."
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>>3437923its midnight
No sleep for the Gigger.
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>>3437919dude what sin is a fetus supposed to do? it can barely even move πππ
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>>34379261 John 3:4
"Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness."
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>>3437932Um….. thats called legal positivism sweatie.
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>>3437930Sin can be a rejection of God and His grace. This could be done by the soul potentially.
β3437940[Quote]
Infants and other non-baptized people go to Limbo, the 0th circle of hell
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>>3437938It is breaking God's law. Sin can be action, inaction and thoughts.
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>>3437930Idk kicking the womb o algo
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>>3437936>>3437941You've never heard of iniquity, but attempt to speak with such authority. This is a serious problem.
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>>3437950I don't speak with any authority. I have consistently said its possible. I submit myself to all authority that is moral and upright.
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>>3437941I will tell you this: when one of my children dies in the slave barrens that cover this planet, I also die, and you, my arrogant friend, even you die a little.
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>goo goo gagaaaa maamamamammamamama I, for one, reject the grace of God, the most gracious, most merciful mamamamamamamamamamamamama!!!
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>>3437942Well babies do process some of the speech heard from outside of the womb, maybe the baby's parent's athiestpilled the baby and made the baby disbelieve and go to hell.
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>>3437957I believe this rejection would be spiritual and not literal words.
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>>3437957Can't find the giga for this. I must kill myself for this dishonor.
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>>3437954>I don't speak with any authority. Yet
>I have consistently said its possible.You make the definitive claim that a baby can reject the gave of God.
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>>3437970I said its a debate worth having. Do you disagree?
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>>3437980My sentament is the same as would I forgive my young son if he was getting milk out of the fridge and he spilt it. Is it his fault he spilt it? He doesnt have the fine tuned motor skills to be able to handle a heavy jug of milk, he doesnt have the wherewithal to know that the full jug is to much for him to handle. Is it his fault?
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>>3437989I would banish him for dropping the milk. How DARE he spill my precious milk
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The theology of christianity is utter niggerhell
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>>3437989Am I more or less merciful than God, in this situation?
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>>3437998you absolutely are, now watch the yaldabaoth defenders seethe
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>>3437995Erm… God is beyond human understanding christophobic bigot
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>>3437998No man can be more merciful than God.
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>>3438012me, a humble tradcelt druid
bro β3438099[Quote]
>>3438046The teaching that man can be moral moral than God is demonic.
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>>3438099>moral moralMore Moral
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>>3438028Well then, how merciless would God have to be to damn a baby to hell for seemingly rejecting him, even the baby has no capacity to think, articulate, understand, know of, or even comprehend even the smallest reality God creates?
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>>3438061Gay ass larp just be a pagan atp
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>>3438182Do you know the baby doesn't have the facilities to reject God?
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>>3438194more pedantry snca
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>>3438194What can you remember of life in the womb?
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>>3438196I remember parts of it. Unironically. AMA.
β3438201[Quote]
>>3438198no you dont!!! swear on giga.
β3438202[Quote]
>>3438196Just because our brains don't remember it, doesn't mean the soul wasn't aware.
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>>3438198why do babies kick uterine walls? out of boredom?
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>>3438194Just as my previous analogy shows that my young son doesnt have the faculties to comprehend he cant pick up a full jug of milk, nor can he comprehend what it means to with his whole heart and mind to reject God.
β3438210[Quote]
>>3438201swear on giga
it was red and dark and grainy. like looking at the backs of ur eyelids but feverish
>>3438204random involuntary movements idk
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>>3438198Are you still a virgin, and did you commit incest1!!!1!11!1!
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>>3438206you have a son??????????????? omghggggg thats so cool.
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>>3438212Im a trucell for life.
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>>3438206How can you assert this without knowing the full attributes of the soul?
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>>3438225Is the soul ours? Do we have dominion over it? If God is more merciful than me, and i forgive me son for not knowing he cant pick up a jug full of milk, who is God to give a baby the capacity to reject a him whom the baby never got to know?
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>>3438261The Bible says God knew us in the womb.
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>>3438285Not a rebuttal to anything I said.
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>>3438289It is. You said the baby never got to know God but we know that isn't true. St. John the Baptist praised Jesus while in the womb and was filled with the Spirit. The Bible says David followed God from the moment he left the womb implying he knew God before he left the womb.
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>>3438303You understand this isnt a rebuttal too right? You gave 2 specific examples of basically mythic level characters in God's story. Not a definitve proof that ALL or ANY OTHER babies can recognize, comprehend, and have the capacity to accept or reject God.
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>>3438330thats giga though
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>>3438330The Bible never says it doesn't apply to all infants.
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>>3438303>St. John the Baptist praised Jesus while in the womb and was filled with the Spirit.When rocks and trees praise God during the second coming, did the rocks and trees have the capacity to reject?
> The Bible says David followed God from the moment he left the womb implying he knew God before he left the womb>implying>the moment he left the womb>imply before he knewWhat is God is David might know him?
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>>3438348Nor did it say I wasnt a angel.
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>>3438389>What is God is David might know him?What is God that David might know him?*
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>>3438402>>3438389We can use reasoning to show you aren't an angel. We can not say for certain that infants do not possess the capacity to reject or accept Christ.
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>>3438402i want superpowers and i want to fly and be rich can u plz
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>>34384491) no you cant
2) yes we can
>muh how?Full grown adults dont. Babies dont know of God. They can barely eat food. They will literally die if they arent held. Sometimes they just stop breathing, and actually suffocate to death.
Do you think Jesus had a child with Mary magdalene?
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>>3438519Kids who aren't baptized go to purgatory, not hell
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>>3438537nuclear
bro stop ignoring me…
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>>3438540Who are you
bro?
β3438554[Quote]
>>3438544I know you are the nuclear frank. bye
β3438555[Quote]
Get
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>>3438519You deny God and his most known nature, mercy. For the sake of the argument, even though I disagree, I will grant the idea i baby can reject God. WHO CARES? WHAT DOES THE CHUDLET KNOW?
NOTHING, THE BABY KNOWS
NOTHING. GOD IS A WICKED DEVIL IF HE DOES NOT SHOW MERCY TO A MURDERED BABY.
AND YOU KNOW THIS IS TRUE β3438560[Quote]
Kill all cracker babies
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>>3438537Purgatory is something made up in the twelfth century, traditionally babies go to hell, only revisionists in the 20th century say otherwise because they know how fucked up it sounds. The entire nature of hell is retarded too. A 15 year old can go toilet paper a house and get killed in a car accident on the way home and gets eternal damnation but a 90 year old war criminal can get a ticket to heaven because he received his last rights. Why would a completely just and loving god damn someone morally benign
he creates eternally to suffer but a terrible person can go through the motions and get saved? Even then the eternally nature of hell is cruel with the most basic of fucking logic. Someone that steals a loaf of bread suffers the same fate as Lav Beria. Even for someone as evil as Beria their will still be a point where the amount of suffering he is given is a googleplex fold more than the amount of suffering he inflicted on others. Should he still have to stay in the magic burning lava or is enough enough?
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>>3437346 (OP)and all of them are brown
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>>3437346 (OP)We should ban abortions everywhere except goymerica
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Unbaptized souls are not in hellfire, they're in Limbo, which despite not being in Heaven is what most people imagine Heaven is like for eternity.
β3438670[Quote]
>>3438668Has never read Dante award
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>>3438670Dances inferno isnt cannon and wasnt even written by a saint.
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>>3438674Limbo is NOT heaven
bro β3438819[Quote]
Abortion is bad
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Anyone who doesn't abort retards for religious reasons is a moron.
Anyone who aborts healthy kids just because they can is also a moron.
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>>3439187this is the truth btw