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Something occurred to me as I gazed upon the glorious aesthetics of this CHAD. He is just a ripped as fuck ayy. Nothing more nothing less. Obviously everyone can see that, and it's been criticized many times. What people failed to see however, was that therein lies the value. His simplistic, "boring" design was not an accident. It was a symbol. A symbol for his belief in absolute strength. You see, CHADren is unique among the many antagonists Goku faced in that he is simply strong. Nothing more, nothing less. He doesn't have weird gimmicks, he doesn't have fancy techniques that border on magic, his race doesn't have weird biological gifts, he doesn't have transformations. He's just fucking strong because he worked for it.

And with that raw strength he surpasses everything, no gimmick works on him, no transformation helps, even freezing him in time doesn't defeat him.

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theres this rock paper scissors game online called "who can beat america", i typed Jiren since he's unstoppable, but the game says America can beat jiren. WHICH IS FALSE, NO ONE CAN DEFEAT JIREN. Whoever made that game must face Jiren's wrath.
JIREN IS NOT WEAK, HE CAN BEAT ANYONE

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Looped with 3 replies award

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>>98638
still there uncjak

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smt

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jiren is a bitch

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>>98641
DOCTOSSSS Jannies are gonna ACK you for that

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>>98642
what jiren gon do?(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

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>>98641
OYYY WHAT THE FUCK

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>>98632
Kill yourself NAS spamming nigger

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>>98645
GODren BTFOs any soilcuck

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BVLLren i kneel

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Archie Sonic in Base
>Canonically controls fate through pure plot armor alone, leaving literal Gods unwilling to fight him directly.
>Tanked being thrown over 849000 LIGHT YEARS away.
>Runs fast enough to reverse the Quantum Dial, an alien machine that was designed to rupture the space-time continuum and eventually create a black hole.
Even if Jiren grabbed this nigger so he couldn't reverse time, and broke his neck, fate quite literally would not let it happen, the only way Jiren wins, is if he fights Sonic until he dies of old age, that's it, it's a pure durability test.
This is only in base.

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>>98648
jiren cant beat love train funny valentine or die over heaven either

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>>98648
Kill yourself Vinluc

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>>98650
>vinraisin is alive 2024
meds

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>>98648
More scans regarding the fate manipulation.

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>>98650
>>98651
Literal who.
I'm just a Sonicfag who likes Archie.

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>>98652
>>98648
Pucci outspeeds, btfo.

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>>98648
You admitted that I won in our previous discussion, sonic has no attack potency feats so he can't even get through Jiren's ki barrier.

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>>98655
>unstoppable force vs. unstoppable speed
nothing burger fight

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niggas see this and be like, oh Pucci can't win.
https://youtu.be/OYBKMuLnnOA(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

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>>98653
my reactionary holographic pet gangrapist begs to differ

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>>98655
Fair Fair.
>>98654
Base Sonic is capable of running twice the speed of light, in Super he can run at 2000x the speed of light.
He's not beating him in speed, at all.
He was also capable of destroying an entire universe (called Zones in Archie) at age 8.
He's took down many Universe busters during Archies run, particularity Mammoth Mogul.

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>>98659
Pucci can reset the universe 30 times in an hour though

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>>98651
he has a website now

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>>98658
Nigga, the most Metal Sonic ever done in Archie was kamikaze Antoine, Antoine is pushing small building destroyer at best.

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>me when im in the dickriding competition and a sonic fan and dragon ball fan show

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>>98663
show up*

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>>98660
Jiren is multiversal and has feats for breaking out of pocket dimensions, doesn't matter

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>>98660
Archie Super Sonic can fix the multiverse in one concentrated blast albeit.
I will admit, thanks to Robotnik knocking him off course while doing this, the shot blasted incorrectly but if not for this, he could've easily fixed an infinite amount of Universes, as the Archie-verse has an infinite amount of them.

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>>98665
doesn't really matter if your being hit by a guy who literally goes faster than the possible universe

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>>98667
oh yeah and if your slightly cut during time accel you just bleed to death almost instantly

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>>98659
That's sonic's travel speed, in the image he clearly states that his wedgie is only supersonic (combat speed)
If we're talking about travel speed then Jiren has infinite travel speed with instant transmission.
>>98667
Jiren's combat speed is fast enough to transcend time skips and break out of time cages, so lowball above lightspeed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks91HdVQCwI

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I used to be a Jiren denier… I said nobody, even Jiren could beat my dad. Then all of the sudden, he was behind my dad… and he looked into my dad’s eyes and my dad had a heart attack and died instantly… Jiren paid all the costs for the funeral, all I could say was β€œThank you Jiren and Toriyama…”

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>>98669
transcend or just fast enough to make up for lost time?

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jiren came into my room while i was sleeping and sucked my bibisi

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>>98671
The technique Hit is using is called time skipping, which lets him move while time is frozen for everyone else (in the video for up to 10 seconds) and Jiren is fast enough to dodge and respond with attacks of his own

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>>98673
that just sounds like king crimson

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Anyone that hates Jiren is black btw

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Also, Archie Super Sonic is plain and simple; invincible.
All he has is a time-limit on the form, so hypothetically Sonic could bounce back and forth from Super to Base over and over surviving through pure fate alone.

If he had access to his Ultra form (also very much invincible), he could just re-arrange Jirens atoms and turn him into a puddle, or if Jiren could tank that, Ultra Sonic could dismantle his Ki Barrier atom by atom.
ON TOP OF THIS, Ultra Sonic has a unknown multiplier over Super, so he could EASILY be capable of moving anywhere from 4000x to Infinity times the speed of light.
Sonic could either tap into Ultra, and disassemble Jiren atom by atom, or just tank his attacks until he dies of old age.

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>>98676
nigga sonic don't know you

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>>98678
no arrow

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>>98676
>Archie Super Sonic is plain and simple; invincible.
Hakai
>he could just re-arrange Jirens atoms and turn him into a puddle
Show scans
>Ultra Sonic could dismantle his Ki Barrier atom by atom.
It's pure energy, not matter
>Ultra Sonic has a unknown multiplier over Super, so he could EASILY be capable of moving anywhere from 4000x to Infinity times the speed of light.
Look above for Jiren's speed feats
>disassemble Jiren atom by atom, or just tank his attacks until he dies of old age.
Ki barrier and hakai

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>>98681
bites the dust o algo

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>Look above for Jiren's speed feats
>which lets him move while time is frozen for everyone else (in the video for up to 10 seconds) and Jiren is fast enough to dodge and respond with attacks of his own

Archie Sonic can do the exact same thing, he was able to move under the effects of Robotnik' time immobilizing ray.

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>>98662
Do not insult dignitaries, lest they rebuke you.

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>>98683
That's fair, they're at least even in terms of speed then. Still no way for sonic to hurt Jiren albeit whereas he can destroy him with hakai in any form.

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>>98681
>Hakai
Tanks, he has a positive aura in Super that can tank "dark magic" but I suppose it isn't concrete enough.
>Show scans
Cropped scan I snagged from the Archie wiki albeit, this scan depicts him changing atoms on the fly to change fire into water and smoke.
>It's pure energy, not matter
Archie Sonic is stated by Robotnik to be the embodiment of Chaos, a type of energy in the Archie-verse, whether this means he can fuck his raisin up somehow is beyond me, I'll admit I'm grasping at straws.

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>>98683
>archie sonic is the strongest character in all of fiction

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>>98686
>Tanks, he has a positive aura in Super that can tank "dark magic"
It's not evil, you could say it's holy because it's only available to gods and mortals on a limited level (vs individuals)
>changing atoms on the fly to change fire into water and smoke.
Why doesn't he use this on his opponents then?
Even if he could and Jiren got turned into a puddle he would just continue fighting in that form. Video shows Vegita turned into candy who was much weaker than Jiren https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1K37dHunPI
>stated
I want feats not statements. I scaled Jiren against Discord (embodiment of chaos) previously and he won anyway.

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>>98685
Yeah, I think this is a pretty concrete conclusion.
I know Archie Super Sonic has a plethora of abilities, that are admittedly quite busted, like being able to "wish things into existence" for example.
(No, I'm not showing scans as I quite literally have no clue where to look for a source on this but I've seen it stated all over power-scaling threads on plebbit.)
But yeah, I have to admit, Hakai is a pretty good "catch-all" move, that Archie Super Sonic might not be able to tank in Super with his aura, Super Sonic is also constrained to a time limit, so the second it runs out, he's relying on fate and raw-durability in Base.

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>>98688
>Why doesn't he use this on his opponents then?
He rarely taps into Ultra, he's only done it twice.
(I assume this is because writers didn't want people asking the same question you just asked during every conflict Sonic gets into.)

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>>98689
Glad to see we are on the same page then.

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>>98691
Same here.
At least Sonic was able to match him in the speed department, but that was a given he is called "The Fastest Thing Alive" after all.
Another win for GODren, I kneel.

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up

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BVMP



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