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make it easier for nugods to start out, they join, get raped in 10 minutes and leave
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>>11393accept the server's demise
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It's over, the server is run by a mudslime and a pooner
It was destined to fail
Let it go.
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Close the server nigger,
Open it next summer.
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>>11397With a reset of course.
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>>11393It’s because the absolutely raisinty plugins and anticheats that you have essentially serve as a decaying factor to artificially induce player retention. The server has no soul or shared culture, but is merely akin to an ant colony that you deliberately shake, drown and poison. Are you surprised to see the ants all die or disappear? That, paired with terrible janitorial oversight and abusing your own responsibilities has caused (You) to drive out all of the players permanently. If you can’t even make a functioning ecosystem, then don’t be surprised that the players you have are the ones that cause problems, are literally spiritually diseased, are literal pedoniggers, and scum of the worst kind that immediately spread their vitriol upon joining the server.
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>>11393The presidencies have been brimstone.
Every one of them have failed to enact their promises, and left the server shortly after being elected. The losers do the same. It's a server killer.
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Here's why soycraft sucks:
1. Neutralfagging
Neutral factions give players the ability to be fully immune to attack while advancing in gear and supplies. Limit neutrality to a certain number of days. You are only allowed to be neutral for 14 days, and this is revoked if your faction has 4 or more members.
2. Shítty moderation
Jannies are rarely online now, meaning that players who have an issue have to wait hours or even days to get it resolved. The moderation guidelines seem to be nonexistent, it should be made clear what is and isn't allowed in detail.
3. Players aren't being punished for abusing alts and radioactive material. 2-3 day bans are not enough. Using an alt to get into other factions needs to be taken seriously, and should result in a 30+ day ban.
4. There is no economy.
This one is self-explanatory. We need some way to trade, and a currency that is actually useful. There is a custom villager plugin, maybe add a trading hall where you can buy and sell different blocks and materials for cob coins.
5. There's no gameplay loop, and no reason to fight other players.
Add features and events which offer valuable custom items or materials for people who participate/win. You could make use of the colosseum and offer valuable items to winners, it doesn't have to be only pvp in the colosseum, It could be parkour battles, PvM, build battles, etc. etc.
Strive for maybe 1 or two of these events every weekend
6. I hate to say it, but I have changed my mind. The border needs to shrink. Shrink the border to 200k.
7. The dynmap allows players to raid other players without putting in any effort to finding their base. In addition to suggestion 6, remove the ability to see factions on the dynmap. Players should not be able to find your base by looking at a txt file or looking for your claims on the dynmap.
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>>11403Additionally, If someone participates in a raid where an alt account was abused to discover the location of the raided's base or abused to teleport them to that base, they should receive a 7 day ban.
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>>11393Ban lavacasting or blowing up buildings (explosions should be moderate, to get the contents of chests for raider) or provide rollback without returning stolen items. Also ensure protection of unclaimed buildings from malicious destruction and monitor the aesthetic appearance of unoccupied chunks in general so that there are no huge water walls or ugly stone bastions made with lavacast.(neutral status doesnt help and i want to get rid of it, all factions should participate in server drama )
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>>11408>Ban lavacasting or blowing up buildings (explosions should be moderateGEEEEG STILL LEAKING AFTER THE RAIDS
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>>11411i am the owner of his faction and i dont even care about having gotten raided geg
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>>11413i was mildly frustrated
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>>11397tsmt
at this point there is nothing to be done. Any attempt at saving the server now would be like putting a band-aid on a machete wound. The server only really had a chance of sticking around when it was first launched, back then it had 20-30 people on at once on average even after a week of launching. When it relaunched some time later most people were already disinterested because they identified the server with getting fucked over by griefertroons. The only way the server could have been saved is if the very first grief lavacast raid was reverted and sonoro and usnutt were banned permanently without any chance of coming back for being such enormous faggots. The server was killed by absolutely incompetent, borderline mentally challenged moderation and there is nothing to be done about it now. Of course if the server ever relaunches in the further future it must be moderated by someone else enitrely, but Im afraid by then sharty culture will have diminished to the point it wont be able to sustain a minecraft server for any longer than 2 weeks maybe
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>>11393My idea:
Villager trading hall where you can buy special items like spawn eggs or certain slimefun gear. Maybe powerful Grinding gear like eff 15 or fortune 7 books, but NO pvp stuff. This encourages people to fight so they get stronger, but doesn't have an immense snowball effect. I'll leave it to the people to decide what they want in this store.
This trading hall uses a special currency that can only be gotten from killing players. This ensures that PVP actually has some solid benefits.
Then, make newGODs not able to fight other players OR be fought for about 20 minutes. This is so they can't easily be farmed for infinite shekels.
Make it so if you want to be neutral, you need to be neutral for a week at the time, and if a president wants to run, his faction can't be neutral. Early on it was thought that elections could add lore and possibly civil wars against whoever wins, but when your neutral you can't really do that. OR have it be that the president can be attacked even if his faction is neutral.
More in a moment.
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>>11424Next, and this is a big one:
Anyone who wants to be a buildfag and stay neutral needs to pay a tax. Maybe in something hard to autofarm. This means that if you want to be neutral, you need to actually grind, but it doesn't remove the opportunity. Lets be real, we all like the builds at spawn (some of them at least, but thats not a convo for today.). My idea is ghast tears, poisonous potatoes, or maybe redstone. Diamonds are easy if you grindstone down villager stuff with the MCMMO salvage (fuck you sonoro)
And to make neutrality not so easy, we need to make it somewhat difficult. If you don't want PVP, then do PVE.
What I believe is that we should make the ENVIRONMENT harder. Make it difficult to survive alone. What I think would be great is either A.) Finding a way to make the mobs harder for neutral players (i.e: perma debuffs or spawn alterations, idk.) OR make them weaker.
If we do something like mining fatigue or farm nerfs, then it doesn't make the game more interesting, it makes it more tedious. Also its illegal, as under the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights (Resolution 217), forcing someone to mine in deepslate without efficency is a crime against humanity comparable to the holocaust (which simultaneously didn't happen and was really funny)
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>>11424>Villager trading hallGood idea
>Special currency from killing playersGood idea, but your solution for newniggers wont stop people from just making a couple of alt accounts and waiting 20 minutes
Any solution for this would likely require custom script, even the implementation of the feature itself would possibly require custom script, though all of this could be possible using command blocks. (but jannies are too lazy to do this)
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>>11426Also some smaller ones
1.) Remove the raisin anticheat. I could get a retarded monkey to build one and it would be better.
2.) Remove the wordfilter.
3.) Let us use /co inspect. Makes dealing with faction drama easier and lets me know if I forgot something or my teammate stole it.
4.)Maybe advertise the server more?
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>>11428The question is, what would be good to put in the trading hall?
It shouldn't be stuff like Sharpness 10 swords or PVP gear because then someone could easily snowball and become impossible to beat. Also not bedrock for similar reasons.
Perhaps something like spawn eggs for changing mob spawners, or a ticket for a fat stack of mcmmo levels you can cash in with an admin, but that one might be unfeaseable.
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>>11426The neutralnigger problem simply needs to be resolved by limiting neutralniggardry to 2 weeks max
The only special protections buildGODs need is protection for their builds - and they should have to pay some significant amount of something to jannies for that protection, and these payments can be divvied up between other factions
>we should make the ENVIRONMENT harder. Make it difficult to survive aloneraisinty idea, will just make people not want to play.
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>>11432there was already some kind of plugin for being able to buy protected chunks installed, just that janjans never bothered to use it. there was also a chestshop plugin but janjans also never used it
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>>11433tsmt most of these suggestions have already been stated, mist just ignores them because xe doesnt know how to manage a server
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add mods; would be gemmy to go to the moon and name build some kind of hyperborea and then nuke it to the ground
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>>11438Might look into this a bit.
>>11430I might make some sort of trading hall for some rare items at spawn. Sounds like a good idea.
>>11433I'll try to get the chestshop plugin to work.
>>11424The currency idea seems easily abuseable. But the hall idea sounds interesting.
>>11403The team is working on getting someone new to help with jannying the server. I remember when it comes to the border shrinking, a lot of people voted to NOT shrink it. We could do a poll again to see if opinions have changed, i might ask Quote to do that for the dynmaps if the userbase really wants it too.
>>11394I added a kit called "newgod" this might help.
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>>11463Remove neutralniggers
make it a max of two weeks
If buildGODs want their builds protected outside of government zone they should have to pay
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>>11393Do you know why the server's playercount dropped from 40 on average to 3 on average?
>Mist pardoned repeat cheaters and exploiters because they were "fun to talk to">Mist then ditched the server for the only period it was actually alive in, leaving griefing and spawncamping to go unchecked for like three weeks>Mist and the other staff completely ignored almost every suggestion coming from the playerbase, and then everyone left>Server was so unbearably laggy that you would randomly take damage from nothing, or mine a block 30 times before it broke. When the server first went up, this was the constant state of it. It got better but it was too late when it did.>Server was severely lacking in plugins from the start and the good ones were added WAY too late>New features aren't worth a rat's ass and nobody wants to come back to the server because of the impression you left on them the first time they came around<Seetherald spaceNow summer's over, and everyone's going back to having a life, or whatever soyteens have in place of one. Those 40 are gone, you can't get those players back. Should've struck when the iron was hot, the server could've easily carried on with that initial strong population but Mist just kinda fucked off to goon to the S4S girl and reverse-dilate xer neophallus. Ronald didn't give a raisin either. Wiping the server map after that enormous failure was like trying to defibrillate a skeleton.
<Sharted in my pants spaceIf I were you I would shut down the server, stop wasting bandwidth, and put it back up next summer if this website's still around. And when you do, actually give a raisin if you want to keep a playerbase.
<Whingy essay spaceAlso there's a the murdered variant embedded in that gif you fucking retard
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>>11463just accept the server’s failure. take it as a lesson and learn what to and what not to do if the server gets closed and reopened next summer. alternatively wipe the server and open it periodically for college/uni breaks like winter
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>>11478in every man, there is a single part of him that will never truly accept the "its so over" that was forced on him
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>>11393I feel like we should have guidelines for suggestions.
My ideas are:
1.) If you make it so you can get rewards from fighting, it shouldn't be PVP gear.The reason is that it would be a race for one person to get that, and then they go around BTFO'ing people who don't already have it. It would make it harder to be better than those who were here before you.
2.) Neutrality shouldn't be removed, but reworked. If you wanna sit and build farms at spawn then thats fine, but you shouldn't be able to just avoid struggle.
3.) Grinding isn't bad. What is bad is when it takes away from the game. I shouldn't have to sit in front of my computer and hold down a button for 20 fucking minutes to get an item. I hate villager trading halls for this reason.
4.) Encourage fighting without forcing it. Not everyone wants a spawn that makes 2b2t look well maintained with retards and their competitive n00b raping.
5.) There will always be someone who knows a plugin better than (((you))) do. Remember that.
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Just joined. My advice is to get rid of everything. I don't know what factions are or why a Minecraft server would need a damn login. Just ditch it all for a regular fucking server. Infinity more enjoyable to actually play Minecraft and not whatever you're trying to do.
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>>11517This, so much this
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>>11524tsmt add mods where u can rape niggas on dragons o algo
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It’s been forever since I’ve been on but encourage player interaction, it’s easy to go run away and hide to only occasionally show up to spawn but I can also do that in single player. Enhance the multiplayer experience, player interaction is the sole reason to play multiplayer instead of alone. Fixing this is tough and unfortunately will require Janny interaction for the best results. Firstly shrink the map to around 1.5k, force everyone to share the same space to promote encounters and shared projects.
Secondly, there needs to be less cucked claims, how can I leave my mark anywhere if I can’t touch it? Unfortunately this is difficult, as it requires either a more dynamic claim system, tranarchy, or some other method to control players. Personally, I would try only 4 or so janoid backed factions (owned by janny but they can’t contribute to anything besides enforcing faction cohesion, leaders would be picked by players) for those that want a more faction experience while everyone else gets no claims but griefing would still be punished regardless (this is where janny steps in to resolve conflict).
raisin like slime fun goes away it promotes grinding alone and inhibits pvp. With less valuable equipment from slimefun pvp should be less punishing for the loser who just loses his inventory, give the loser a pvp cooldown of 20 min as well to allow for recovery and anti spawn killing (factions would have a lower cooldown due to them having support).
I saw this thrown around ITT but stuff like cobcoin or some other universally wanted item would promote some form of economy or even let players/factions make their own money to add some economy/banking layer onto this aswell.
In conclusion, make a server that forces player interaction and don’t pigeonhole the server instead have be a one size fits most.
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>>11526>shrink the map to 1.5kretarded idea
>remove claimsretarded idea
>remove slimefunretarded idea
>pvp cooldownpointless and retarded idea
>bankingretarded idea
I'm starting to think you're retarded…
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>>11526worst idea ever kys
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>>11534>>11535Obsessed brimstone.
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Janny post my gem 💎 💙
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>>11543The embedded version I didn’t make thoughbeit
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>>11517Login is needed for cracked players
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>>11526>shrink the map to 1.5kRetarded idea
>remove claimsGalaxy brain idea
>remove slimefunGalaxy brain idea
>pvp cooldownOhio
>bankingOhio
You’re kind of stupid
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>>11552I mean. Besides me going on vacations for those two weeks nothing else really was so bad was it? And I mean. I do like having a life outside of the Sharty.
Also one thing, I don't have all the power in the world. You must not blame all the problems of the server on me because many just come from the fact that maybe player retention just isn't the same anymore and that's fine.
Chest shop plugin has been added also. Hopefully it works, make a thread on here if it doesn't.
>>11526I think we can reduce the world border, just that I'll put out some sort of warning before that.
>>11553And what do you want by "Old Soycraft" standards?
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>>11558You don't have a vision for soycraft. It's just a bunch of mindless decisions. At least baritroon was consistent in xis rulecucking and townytroon ideals
You have to pick one - either this is a factions pvp server, or it's a townytroon buildcuck server.
Trying to cater to everyone is how you get gay DEIslop video 'games' that no one enjoys
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Misssttttt shrink the border to 500 blocks I want behavioral sink to kick in.
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>>11563tsmt server felt like it was just made up on the fly geg
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>>11563tsmt server felt like it was just made up on the fly geg
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delete the server and make a modded server something somewhat hard like gregtech or enigmatica2expert or some other gemmy modpack
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>>11563havent read a word of the rest of the thread but surely the point of the server was meant to be building funny things with other teens and griefing and goofing off
why should it be erp or sweaty pvp kek its not that serious
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>>11576from what i've seen as an outsider who hasnt played (i dont like factions) the server seems like its really trying to be a civ server without any of the proper plugins.
I imagine more people would base together if they could exile pearl griefers and need the essence to maintain the jailing. BuildGODs get protection in return for an uncraftable resource the mega factory autist and pvp autist can use
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More rulecucking, more democracy LARP, keep pedophiles unbanned. You're doing a great job champ
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>1. Unless a player is of a faction that you are currently in war with, trying to target random players and killing them is disallowed. Especially targeting new players will grant harsh sentences.
>2. Absolutely no Cheating. Simple as. There's an anti-cheat in place too to prevent that even further.
>That's actually it, there isn't much rulecucking but the server shouldn't be tranarchy either, have fun!
Just do this again nigger it's not hard
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>>11588yes do what caused a reset and killed the server once before (and even faster than this time) it’s just retarded rules not that theres that many
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Since you added a newgod kit which solves the problem of how its hard for newgods to start out, now you need to advertise this server to newGODs.
Remove presidency, its pointless
Now im about to suggest something about neutrality, but I know your not gonna do it anyway, but there should be a condition to be neutral:
Build something at spawn to prove your not abusing the neutral system for protection, and that you are actually a buildGOD
if you dont satisfy the condition above, then you can still be neutral until you get netherite stuff. (so newGODs and poorFAGs dont get raped by an obsessed kike)
That is all.
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>>11601>ignore netherite progression>secretly advance in slimefun and jannies are none the wiserThis is unenforceable you retard
Just remove neutralfagging entirely
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turn on keepinventory
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>It took 14 days for someone to realize it
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>>11653no it didn't
>>11477 i pointed it out
where mist response btw
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>>11579Disgusting. Vanilla is superior.