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>>2902250 (OP)I'm proud to be normal. It's awesome. I go skiing on weekend, go to church, my kids love me, fuck my wife a few times a week. You guys should try it.
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>>2902250 (OP)Are you a man?
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this internationalism is tribal, that's why it works. also kys
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>>2902300Ever or just now?
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>>2902343Did the vast majority fight for their culture and identity forever or is this just now?
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>>2902264I agree we should all mix and this pole should be Alunyafags neighbour
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>>2902355Yes, pretty much for most of all of history
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>>2902250 (OP)Were all of the alunyas fake?
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>>2902283Slight mistake. But you understood what I meant anyway.
>>2902286Politics?
>>2902300Senseless babble that makes no sense.
>In other words, if you chose to be internationalist just like the (((elites))) you'd simply end up eroding any national and cultural identity. And thus, by default, eroding any chance of resistance.Just typing shit. How would it "erode any chance of resistance" at all?
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>>2902283true, commiepedotroons really love that word
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>>2902371>Politics?Marge?
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Hey fucker ever considered nationalizing the socialism
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>>2902391>The only reason the vast majority of people ever fight is to defend their own culture and identity.Yeah, and it clearly isn't working as a measure against the capitalist clique.
>>2902386As I said in the OP, as long as capitalism is global, socialism must be so too.
>>2902397Politics?
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>>2902250 (OP)Do you believe in the separation of powers or the unification of powers?
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>>2902250 (OP)>As long as capitalism remains international, proletarian struggle must remain so too. It's simply not a choice.why doe
Stalin said revolution in one country
+ Just becouse muh hekin rich pipo are international doesn't mean that we should get rid of nations
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>>2902409That's because their reason to fight is being eroded by that
((("capitalist clique"))). The reason being Culture and Identity. Capitalism had no power until they forced peoples who are alien to one-another to cooperate for material profits.
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>>2902250 (OP)communists or people who say rich people/capitalism is the problem are merely playing into the game of the powerful. the elites are people who use there wealth to bend the rules and laws of a nation to there whims. different from just the very wealthy. the elite wants you to fight the rich so you dont fight them
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>Communism is a classless society.
>Look inside.
>Your treatment in a communist state is your relationship in the ruling party.
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>>2902410I opposite it, of course. Separation of powers is legalistic bourgeois nonsense that prevents true democracy.
>>2902419Least obvious bourgeois psyop.
>>2902421>why doeBefore socialist takeover, collaboration is essential, as the advance in working rights in one country doesn't matter if the workers on the other country keep working under the same horrible conditions, as the capital will flow to the abused and more profitable country.
After socialist takeover, collaboration is essential because the imperialist world order will do whatever it is possible to stall the Revolution, be it sabotage or military invasion.
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>>2902409all systems live and die on the competency of the leadership. the system now is only seen as bad because the government, elites, and general leadership are incompetent retards.
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>>2902453>Least obvious bourgeois psyop.Cardposting is a fellow Leftist
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>>2902449In the classless society, class is determined by the individuals relationship to the state rather than capital so we ensure a 100% corruption.
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>>2902453>Before socialist takeover, collaboration is essential, as the advance in working rights in one country doesn't matter if the workers on the other country keep working under the same horrible conditions, as the capital will flow to the abused and more profitable country.>After socialist takeover, collaboration is essential because the imperialist world order will do whatever it is possible to stall the Revolution, be it sabotage or military invasion.But if you achieve Perfect communism then shouldn't the Workers from the bordering countries immigrate to you becouse your country is so great? + there is no immigration control since there is no nation inside the communist country
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>>2902453I bet you didn't even work a day in your life
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>>2902277I cannot believe I'm siding with the fake Alunyafag.
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>>2902453>Separation of powers is legalistic bourgeois nonsenseYou're a bottom
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>>2902424He voiced support for decolonization efforts, but that's not the same as agitating for proletarian revolution in foreign nations.
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>>2902453doebeit you do realize that people's natural greed and want for me will exist even in a group of people who were oppressed before right? it just seems like folly to think people will somehow throw away these very ingrained behaviors because they were oppressed and many times in history the people who revolted against the government become the very thing they fought against
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>>2902430Almost all wealthy people are part of the elite, as they are interested in preserving the status quo and preventing the Revolution.
>>2902429And one of the ways to erode that reason to fight is to prevent collaboration between the proletariat by drawing national lines and creating a fake national enemy.
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>>2902470This is a fake alunyafag?
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>>2902471well legal power is only maintained through violence and force so it just depends on how hard a government enforces laws
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>>2902479who cares anyway, both are utterly retards
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>>2902477most wealthy people are retards who buy funko pops. they arent worried about increasing there wealth through means of destroying the envirnoment/government. at most you could say they are unknownly supporting the status quo but you can say that about more normies poor and rich. the real issue are the ones who actively destroy the society and want to ensure the status quo the WEF is a big example of this. the reality is these types of people have existed in all societies throughout history
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>>2902458Leadership in capitalism doesn't matter, as capitalism is an inherently self-destructing system. The only "good" leader in capitalism is the one who can keep the status quo going on as long as possible. Good for the elite, that is.
>>2902463I know. He's misled.
>>2902467Nothing wrong with that.
>>2902468You'd be wrong, but work in a capitalist system is nothing to be proud of anyway.
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>>2902491Then why do you need a global revolution if a local works?
Kek
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>>2902500Xhey won't get it
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>>2902491leadership 100 percent matters. look at teddy roosevelt Andrew Jackson etc all of them were against keeping stuff the same during there time and they are considered some of the best presidents in us history. i think you are confusing modern day western societies with the past ones. the companies have actively intergrated themselevs into government back then companies and government were very fucking different things. today its different not a fault of capitalism. its a fault of leadership and government not purely the system itself
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>>2902491work in this system used to be a proud thing back in the 50s 60s 70s
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>>2902490This is simply not true, most capitalists are absolutely aware of class struggle. It is true that in our modern era and specifically in first world countries the Revolution is barely seen as a threat, but this is an exception to the rule.
Also, note that when I say "wealthy" I'm referring to the bourgeoisie, as in those who own the means of production.
>>2902476I do not believe people are evil by nature. Most evil is caused by material greed, which wouldn't be a problem in a post-scarcity society.
>>2902502When did I say such thing?
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>>2902527You advocate for international class struggle which in result implies an international revolution
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>>2902527>I do not believe people are evil by nature. Most evil is caused by material greedyou're so fucking retard that it's actually pathetic
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>>2902511>>2902515A small golden age in a localized region of the world does not mean the universal tendency is proven wrong. Capitalism is the reason the world keeps going more to shit.
>>2902521Too bad it does not mean that.
>>2902525Incredibly dumb and entry-tier question I won't even answer. Please look up the difference between socialism and communism on Google.
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>>2902533>BrazilianGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG
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>>2902531Yeah. So? When did I say that a "local revolution works", as you said?
>>2902533>>2902543Well, if you guys say so, I must be wrong!
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>>2902540come and take a sniff of my bibisi, fag
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>>2902527>I do not believe people are evil by nature. Most evil is caused by material greed, which wouldn't be a problem in a post-scarcity society.So much evil has been committed and inspired by communism that at this point you can just accept that it's just an excuse for evil people to commit evil they were gonna do anyway
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>>2902491<>>2902548>Nothing wrong with that.You say that there is nothing wrong with a local revolution which expands only through immigration to the revolutionised country
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>>2902527there is always scarcity. if not in physical means then people will make up problems to fight because humanity is designed to constantly be struggling for survival. its not seen as a threat because times arent hard enough for people to give up the yoke of the social contract to join communist/nazi groups and actually revolt against the government. my issue with that is it is too vague to just say those who own the means of production. the people i think actually cause the issues in this world are the ones who have actual malice in there hearts to bend the world to there wills. the sad reality is that without any system that shames/enforces people they give into disgusting impulses like murder rape etc. material greed is defo part of it but it isnt the main thing personally i would say the main thing is need for power and less just greed
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>>2902548glad you understood
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>>2902548>i don't believe that people are evil by nature>I believe that evil comes from capitalist greedfirst of all, where does greed come from retard. Secondly, yes there are people who are evil and retarded by nature, and you are wrong.
Also, how can communism eradicate material greed in all of people in the world?
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>>2902548>international revolutionyou do realise that's impossible right
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>>2902527why would greed dissapear under communism?
People would still want to ride royce-royces and have gold watches
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>>2902539well the reason back then it was good was because ceos could only make 30x more then the average worker's salary and also basic things were more affordable. to me that says it was bad policy that fucked it up then capitalism being heckin bad. do i think capitalism is perfect? fuck no. what i do believe is that these issues exist in some form or another in most systems. its a fight against apathy the status quo and human evil
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>>2902566Greed comes from a natural desire to survive no matter the cost
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>>2902568>You are fagesl projection
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>>2902577well in a world that has infinite resources we wouldnt need greed but that would take some form of genetic engineering to get rid of perma
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You've switched the problem from people owning the means of production to people holding positions in the state. Either nothing gets produced or you end up with slaves.
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>>2902578wdym this isnt a debate this is a disscussion on ideas
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>>2902580Nah, you like the news son
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>>2902578xhe would stop whining about the bourgeoise if we teared xher ass apart instead
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>>2902587i treat everything like a debate because I'm a narcissistic fuck. Problems?
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>>2902589incomprehensible, too aroused to type correctly before my bibisi
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>>2902594well this is the issue it will only be about ego and nothing of value or interest
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>>2902548niggers cant handle any amount of debate and can only shit fling geg
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>>2902551The end justifies the means.
>at this point you can just accept that it's just an excuse for evil people to commit evil they were gonna do anywayHow'd you jump to such conclusion?
>>2902559Thing is, "perfect communism isn't possible on a local scale in the first place.
>>2902560The lack of material scarcity would definitely bring about the end of most conflict. The first world is the living proof of this.
>the people i think actually cause the issues in this world are the ones who have actual malice in there hearts to bend the world to there willsRegardless, the desire of the bourgeoisie to mantain their position remains. Maybe these two sort of elites exist in parallel, but it makes sensethe people who hold the economic and political power (the capitalist) would intertwine with these evil people you say.
>>2902566Greed comes from the desire to have somebody else's stuff, of course. This can be out of necessity, which is fixed by giving them access to their needs, or out of desire of luxury, which can be fixed through education. Utopia of Thomas Moore, if you've ever read it, touches on this.
>>2902572I do not.
>>2902574Education.
>>2902575And what would be stopping these ceos from trying to attain more and more power? Do you seriously believe capitalism, a system led by the search of profit, could be led by good-willed people?
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>>2902624>The end justifies the means.And then they make the leaders and their board
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>>2902250 (OP)Communism literally has never worked
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>>2902624>Thing is, "perfect communism isn't possible on a local scale in the first place.Then why would it be possible in a bigger scale?
+ You can see Communism working in local scales at homes, Everyone has acces to the food and things and members of the family contribute something (kids contribute by helpin around the house)
>Education.It would just do the opposite, School is a place of exchange of thought and ridicule of rules, Not Civil discussion or Change of ideals. FOrcing students to believe in something would do quite the opposite of it's intent
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>>2902250 (OP)Hello dear comrade, I agree with you.
Heil Hitler
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>>2902624it would prob bring a end to alot of conflict i agree. i also agree with your second point there does exist two types of people in regards to this. the followers and leaders. the ones who want to shape this blue marble to there will and the ones who just go to the same schools same colleges believe in mostly the same things. one is indirect support and the other is active support. but the sheep will follow whoever is next once the current leadership goes away. so to me the only option next is real change and breaking of the status quo through either violent or peaceful means. the government would stop them and a generally more educated populace. to me the current batch of elites are much more unified and smarter then previous if not all previous generations of elites. they understood in the 19th/20th century that the only way to truly win was to A work together in total agreement (same colleges, WEF, trilateral commission, EU, globalization, etc) and use ads as a means to make the average person both dumb and physical weak (mainstream news, engineering of consent, fast food, gmos, fluoride, etc) all these things combined together makes a deadly batch of elites but not a long term thinking one because destroying the planet raping children and making humanity less human wont help there children or anyone else in the long term. the government let itself become corrupt over time but if this is tried again in a future time i think that a stronger government could do better under a capitalistic system. i think another issue is that capitalism is currently the best system at long term stablity (doe you need some socialism in your system to make it truly long term but too much socialism also leads to issues)
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>>2902624>>at this point you can just accept that it's just an excuse for evil people to commit evil they were gonna do anyway>How'd you jump to such conclusion?Commies correlate with gratuitous unnecessary suffering so it must be intentional
>Thing is, "perfect communism isn't possible on a local scale in the first place.So you invade your neighbors for the noble reason of defeating their greed. Predictably communism fails and the violence is necessary for the noble cause.
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>>2902702>words words wordslearn to break your paragraphs
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>>2902710learn to read texas hick
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>>2902651The roman republic fell, therefore democracy doesn't work. Democrats BTFO
>>2902663It will be possible in a bigger scale because of what I explained earlier. Communism has to be internationalist as long as capitalism is; there is no other option.
And yes, education would work. And by education I don't strictly mean schooling, I mean more like an ideology of sorts. Just like, for example, Christianity introduced the idea of humanitarianism, the Revolution must educate its members about the absurdity of luxury.
>It would just do the opposite, School is a place of exchange of thought and ridicule of rulesYou're basically saying that trying to spread an ideology or set of ideas is pointless. Such a claim is absurd, of course.
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>>2902710i will take this into account doebeit because it does look bad to myself even XDD
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>>2902718well a better argument against you is that during there reigns these countires were objective shitholes GEG
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>>2902718>You're basically saying that trying to spread an ideology or set of ideas is pointless. Such a claim is absurd, of course.What im saying is that school is not a good place to spread ideologies
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>>2902624>fixed by giving them access to their needs>desire of luxury can be fixed through educationnot everyone can be reeducated. Some people are born as psychopaths or maniacs that don't have empathy. Some people have ADHD BPD and other schizo shit and they physically can't contribute to society because of it. Because they are retarded.
Furthermore, desire of luxury is not a sinful impulse, but rather a projection of a natural need to hog resources so you and your family can grrow wealthy and strong. The educational system telling you
>ERM ACTUALLY HAVING MINIMAL RESOURCES IS LE GOOD BECAUSE WE ALL LIVE IN A COMMUNIST UTOPIA AND YOU WILL OWN NOTHING AND BE HAPPPY ODER SOwill anger some people who rightfully want luxury because, surprise, LUXURY IS GOOD! IT MAKES YOU HAPPY! YOU CAN HAVE HOBBIES BECAUSE OF LUXURY!
>but luxury exploits othersyes it does! This is how the universe works. Preservation of energy and shit, to have some others must lose some. The thing that matters is that it's in your interest that you and people you love and care about get to use luxury and prosper. Egoistic genes and shit.
>>2902663mi seconds dis. Communism works in small tribes and familiar clans of neolithic period where desire for luxury and greed is negated by the fact that everyone is a family and loves each other. That's why it's called communism, as in community.
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>>2902736plus meeting everyone's needs is not possible either because some of the needs are contradictory.
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>>2902736this is kinda cope because in business they use terms that relate back to some sort of primal nature but in reality no one is at risk of death.
in an ideal world no one fights over resources or are greedy in general but that will prob never be the case but the difference is i dont say its a good thing geg
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>>2902743ThinkerAryans winning as always
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>>2902718>The roman republic fell, therefore democracy doesn't work. Democrats BTFOWell fine if you wish to argue it that way, but whats not really disputable is that all capitalist nations in comparison to socialist/communist nations in history has shown that people who live under a market system fair much better. And have higher quality of life. All economic systems may fall apart in the end, but the system that lasts the longest and is able to distribute resources more effectively in the greatest abundance is indisputably the better system. No socialist/communist nation has come and gone and had any period of stability where people weren't constantly starving from famine or disease.
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>>2902756tsmt the system that provides the most amount of stablity for the longest time is the best
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>>2902762I follow an ideology that failed 1 time.
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>>2902766Your ideology is
The same as them
National socialism, socialism, same bs but with another ism
your death cult will never work
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Itt we create a communist utopia in lesotho and alunyafag will be our leader or something
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>>2902756Tsmt
I believe conservatism with economic liberalism is the best alternative because it keeps the state from becoming a militaristic death cult or a progressive hendoism hell
and the economic liberalism keeps the economy fine and the people free and the state weak enough
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>>2902785>conservatISM and liberalISM is goodStop believing in a death cult
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>>2902785the system matters less then the skills of the leader.
praxis is the only way to go regardless of anything
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>>2902784that would be aryan because WE (yes WE) would get to have an orgy with alunyafag where WE rape xim and xhe enjoys it while larping about marx and shit
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>>2902795Some people are more competent at climbing than leading + dunning kruger
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>>2902795>the system matters less then the skills of the leader.Literally how do you come to this conclusion? No amount of skill from the dear leader will provide us with a system that keeps people and children fed, clothed, and disease free. Economic systems exhibit their robustness from the rules that economic actors have to follow to acquire goods and services.
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>>2902707>Commies correlate with gratuitous unnecessary suffering so it must be intentionalHitler killed a lot of white people, clearly he was anti-white!
>So you invade your neighbors for the noble reason of defeating their greed. Predictably communism fails and the violence is necessary for the noble cause.Yes, that's exactly the conclusion of all revolutionary (AKA: real) communists. Violence is necessary.
>>2902734It absolutely is. Our school system loads us with ideas we tend to keep throughout our lifes. Not all of them, of course. For example, we are all taught as children to be nice. Of course, not everyone turns out nice, but most of us do.
And anyway, this is beside the point; education does not have to mean schooling. Think of, I don't know, recycling campaigns, anti-smoking campaigns, etc.
>>2902736Well, the thing I'm going to say next might sound ridiculous, but, if I managed to shackle my greed, then there is no reason most other people can't. Those psychopaths you mention are a small minority.
>>2902756It is not a fair comparison as socialism has been, since its inception, overpowered and sabotaged by the capitalist world order. Really, only the USSR has ever managed to somewhat stand a chance against imperialism, and even then it was struggling - as you probably know they spent approximately a third of their budget on military expense.
If the global communist revolution succeeded, what would follow would lead to a better quality of life than capitalism.
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>>2902810you work through the system regardless of what is it to get the people what they cry out for. its also good to have a leader who views the success of the country as there own personal success. economic systems can easily be changed by the leaders who govern them
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>>2902250 (OP)>communist says absolutely nothing at all about politics in a multi line paragraphColor me surprised
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>Hitler killed a lot of white people, clearly he was anti-white!
He killed a lot of slavs, who aren't white. Most bell beakers were killed by the allies and in far fewer numbers
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>>2902828Killing white crackers is absolutely based, you should be killed too the white european proletariat has too long benefitted from the labour of poor third worlders. The deserve to get killed.
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>>2902807there have been those throughout history who were objectively better then anyone else around them. any system needs those types to win
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>>2902828>It absolutely is. Our school system loads us with ideas we tend to keep throughout our lifes. Not all of them, of course. For example, we are all taught as children to be nice. Of course, not everyone turns out nice, but most of us do.>And anyway, this is beside the point; education does not have to mean schooling. Think of, I don't know, recycling campaigns, anti-smoking campaigns, etc.Yes, but i'd return to the original question of how would that system make us less greedy? Greed is not something you can controll like swearing, Greed is part of humans
I'm not educated on human nature anyways so i think there is no point in me talking about it
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>>2902250 (OP)Ok this is actually true after thinking and reflecting on my philosophy I think I'm a communist, thank you for converting me. I'm english btw if that matters
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>>2902828well have you considered that some people can believe they dont have to be greedy but still want too? many people act like this. they dont care for virtue or love or morality they care only for there own physical needs. just because you have done something most people can do doesnt mean they want too. if your system falls apart when another embargos you even once then it is not a good or strong system int he first place
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>>2902833I literally did.
>>2902871From an earlier reply:
>Greed comes from the desire to have somebody else's stuff, of course. This can be out of necessity, which is fixed by giving them access to their needs, or out of desire of luxury, which can be fixed through education. Utopia of Thomas Moore, if you've ever read it, touches on this. №2902908[Quote]
>>2902828>Commies correlate with gratuitous unnecessary suffering so it must be intentional>Yes, that's exactly the conclusion of all revolutionary (AKA: real) communists. Violence is necessary.Dead hamster.
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>>2902828small minority can be sound and powerful. A small minority, if convincing and able enough, can start a counter revolution in favor of nationalistic and liberal ideals, or a small minority of greedy psychopaths can end up in position of state of power as general secretaries or presidents.
How do you propose we reeducate people though? By what means can you forcefully convince people that their desire for luxury is a sin?
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>>2902899>everyone here is an idiot for being nationalist Ev&oe the people I hate are also globalist like me You said nothing at all
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>>2902828>It is not a fair comparison as socialism has been, since its inception, overpowered and sabotaged by the capitalist world order.I think this is cope. But rather than dismissing this claim, I'll ask for a citation. Because I don't understand how you think it had nothing to do with the inherent failures of the mechanisms of leftwing economic theory.
>Really, only the USSR has ever managed to somewhat stand a chance against imperialismAre you a USSR apologist?
>If the global communist revolution succeeded, what would follow would lead to a better quality of life than capitalism.I cast doubt on this as no socialist has ever explained to me how to resolve the issues of the price mechanism. Hence why there was this bubbling up of "market socialists" who try to rectify some of the failures of the old command economy socialism by incorporating market activity in socialist production. I think if one were intellectually honest about the history of socialist systems, they would see the true failure of them had to do with the constant shortages and scarcity of goods.
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>>2902250 (OP)I am proud of my nation, I am proud of my ethnicity, I am proud of my race
Despite being raped to the ground several times in the last 300 years we overthrew the commie regime and allowed ourselves to prosper
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>>2902899what if the need for survival is so intergrated that even when we have everything we need we still want more. the roman empire wasnt content with just owning the known world they needed religion to feel like what they were doing was morally right. shows that even those with everything wont always be content
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>>2902917The polish nation deserves to get flooded with niggers because of that, because wholesome white hegemony le bad.
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>>2902933Nigga why you argue with alunyafag he goons to these pseudo intellectual debates.
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>>2902947because debate is worth while if it gives your mind more to think about
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>>2902947And if you actually start to argue intellectually rigorous he spergs out and calls you a troll.
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>>2902947We're all here to have a good time
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>>2902956that would just make the person he called a troll the insta winner and make there worldview look better geg
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>>2902955Not if you're fucking debating a COMMUNIST KEEEEEK
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>>2902955Yeah idk if this applies to every debate.
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>>2902983Here
>I look like that
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>>2902965Based, continue then.
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>>2902974i think talking to all people regardless if they are worth it or not is a net positive. you have nothing to lose
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>>2902982for me it does apply to every debate. people give up thinking if a debate it too hard or too abstract or too long which is a bad thing for society. we need debates of all kinds to increas the level of public discourse and general education of the population
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>>2902991I say this but actually debating the alunya fag will only make you angry
Try to search for common ground so you actually learn something
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Alunya fag what do you think about taxes?
Yay or neigh?
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>>2903008eh your prob right but i also enjoy the shit flinging too so… geg
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>>2902831>its also good to have a leader who views the success of the country as there own personal successAre you a monarchist? Because thats what this sounds like.
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>>2903021Alright do whatever but don't expect to get anything out of it if you're half baiting
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derail this thread with autisms my nusoilings
go nusoilings
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>>2903024THIS SONG IS THE MOST ARYAN OF ALL VANTAWHITE GEMERALDS
I listen to this while dipping major weight with 50kg hanging from my BWC
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Why did the Nazis make such good marching music
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>>2903027well i think in a ideal world some form of autocracy would be the norm. but when i say that i mean for all leaders. the success of a nation should be seen as your own personal success because to be a leader is to lead your country into good waters.
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>>2903030i think even from the worst places you can find mentally stimulating gemmies
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>>2903038Do you do weighted dips?
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>>2903058Yesssss
I love weight dips
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>>2902250 (OP)>denounce internationalism as impossible and against nature, Piggy and his global cliche of billionaire buddies are signing up ..Same thing. You want globalism to be decided by a larger group than a smaller one. you wont change the outcome except for that of a larger group sharing the bulk of the wealth
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>>2903055I prefer to shitfling with actually serious individuals
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>>2903063Me too its also my favorite exercise.
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>>2902250 (OP)Stfu commiepedotroon you're a (left)anarchist who wants to rape kids.
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communism is a nigger ideology
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>>2902911To put it simply: it is not possible to defeat the global capitalist elite without international cooperation.
>>2902908I was not referring to that part of your reply lol. But you're clearly arguing in bad faith, so whatever.
>>2902909Yes, this is true, which is why the majority must be educated about the danger the usurpation of the common good. There is no way around this.
>>2902913Really? A citation? What about Vietnam? What about Korea? What about the rise of reactionary movements after WW1 as an answer to communism? What about the whole Cold War? What about the suppression of trade unions? What about the CIA putting Pinochet in charge? Look, this is just a fact.
Yes, I am a USSR apologist. Nothing wrong with that.
The ECP is mostly a meme. Prices can be predicted with a very good estimate nowadays, thanks to equations developed in the late USSR and the use of supercomputers. And if you aren't convinced of this, just know that modern corporations such as Amazon and Walmart use this very same system.
Those images of shortages come from the collapse of the USSR in the late 80s and 90s btw. I'm not going to deny shortages were a reality but those ocurred just as central planning collapsed.
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>>2903079This would happen
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>>2903074the world is a stage and we dont stop dancing until the curtain calls! to limit yourself to those you see as serious limits your knowledge of what is out there! intelligence is merely a way people justify themselves better not the end all be all
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>>2903044But isn't this too risky? I would argue that the reason why liberal democracies have become the dominant system is because if something goes wrong, most of the time it isn't a SHTF situation where everyone gets shit on them, because no one man commands all the goods and resources. And for that reason if something goes wrong, the possibly disaster in one area of the economy does not spill over onto the other parts of it. In an autocracy this would seem harder to manage.
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>>2903085Howeverthoughalbeitgranted You're poor.
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>>2903091Whats your one rep max?
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>>2903085international cooperation is very hard to do even during the height of these nations they were cooperatiing out of love for communism they did it out of neccesity scarcity.
the closest we got to international cooperation was during the roman empire and that was fucking it geg
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>>290311170kg
I got it for 2 reps.
I like to get at least 6 reps though so I never do this
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>>2903111What's your bench press like?
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>>2903085Do you believe in human tripartition (the soul the body the Spirit) or do you believe in bipartation (the body and the soul)
or do you perhabs only belive in the body?
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>>2903096you have pointed out the biggest flaw of all autocracys. you can have a good leader that fixes everything but once he dies the next one can be a shithead. the only way to fix this is A to groom leaders (like augustus did and which they did for awhile) or B you have to fix current human biology to make an immortal god king with infinite memory geg. so yes sadly currently democracies win out in the end at the cost of speed
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>>2903124Very nice my all time best is like 65kg. Do you do weighted pull ups?
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>>2903149Fuarrrrk.
I did do weighted pull ups for a bit but I found that it fucked up my lat growth, so I don't anymore.
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>>2903140this is wrong because it isnt a fat spanish man geg
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>>2903157Let's fucking go dude same
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>>2903157or around that, I dont usually dont go that high
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>>2903164Nigga I weigh 120kg, so its not that impressive.
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>>2903171the body is a vessel which the soul lives in.
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>>2903171>i believe only in bodywhere does the mind come from duh
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>>2903178>giving into bait making yourself and your idealogy look foolish GEG
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>>2903158Due to my high bodyweight I do like 25kg for like 10 reps. I dont try to one rep max, because I am scared to hurt myself.
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>>2903085>I was not referring to that part of your reply lol. But you're clearly arguing in bad faith, so whatever.You're a little gaslight
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>>2903171This is spiritual thobeit
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>>2903175Thats not something to brag about fat fuck
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>>2903171Do you need politics for a discussion?
I personally believe in the tripartiate as it explains the working of a man fully
The materialistic view ignores The meaning behind actions, For example: Why do we know when to pee? How do we know what is ugly and what is buetifull?
meaning requires spirit or a soul, otherwise how would matter recognise? How would Matter Understand?
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>>2903140THIS is how the revolution will be won
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>>2903193i dont like where this person is going. i hate people who call everything bad faith even if it is just explaing what your saying to them will still make the person acting in bad faith look like a retarded cavetroll with no senses
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>>2903191Swolesome nigga
Do you power lift or body build or what?
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>>2903199I am a tall nigga.
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>>2903204Uhm, have you heard of this thing called the brain?
>>2903210I quoted a part of his reply and made my response, and when he replied back to me he strawmanned me saying I was talking about the other part of his reply.
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>>2903211Idk I used to do calisthenics, but I realized due to my proportions its much harder, so I just try to increase the weights in all exercises I do.
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>>2903226Literally me
All grind
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>>2903222i love shit like this. violent videos overlayed with hyperpop/pop. not saying being violent towards pedos is bad. kill all pedo niggers
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pseudo intelligent thread that is worthless because no one will change their ideology
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>>2903228You should get into weight lifting with that much mass
I bet you could bench 200+ if you tried
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>>2903226Okay I am Lowkey hearing him out
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>>2903240Tsmt
Just try to have fun :)
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>>2903227You do not seriously think that politics is essential for a discussion?
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>>2903227The brain does not explain how you are concious,
The brain does not explain the reason of striving for something
How can a brain generate meaning for you? Matter does not hold meaning.
Even the best computers will never understand meaning, they simply repeat what they are taught
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>>2903227how does the brain generate the consciousness. I want to know at what point of resemblance to the structure of brain consciousness emerges. Does it emerge gradually or instantly? Why there isn't a single reference to consciousness in physical reality? Why everything could exist even if "the lights" were off?
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>>2903227then say this but just saying bad faith just gives into the sterotype of commie debators online. if you want to win the culture/economic war then you need better tactics better branding and more bodies on your side when the civil war comes
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>>2903255Nigga get off my topic you faken thief
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>>2903240its not about changing someones deeply held beliefs. its about nudging them at best. over time years and years there beliefs will change naturally while thinking about these types of convos and even if they never change it gives your brain more time to think about how to strengthen your own worldviews and make them more coherent/educated
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>>2902250 (OP)Do you realize, Alunya, that we cannot achieve an ideal society, as long as the white man exists?
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>>2903241No, for now I will probably stick to weighted calisthenics. I want to do comfortably 10 reps of pull ups with 50kg and 10 reps with 80kg and then I will train for front lever and maybe handstand push up.
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>>2903263okay because I believe that all matter is conscious to some degree (like in hecking deltarune)
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>>2903271i doubt she will keep making these threads for very long
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>>2903280My Sarmatian friends speaks truth! Unity of the races cannot exist as long as the white man, the inventor of racism, is completely wiped out.
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>>2903295geg sorry i associated the alunyafag with being female
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>>2903297Thats right, we Austrians will also join you in this battle to destroy the WASPs.
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>>2903289all it takes is a one seed of anyone else's beliefs to nudge someone is a different direction. people have long memories and when they see something they agree with irl and see how it relates back to what is said on this board they will realize its time for a change
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>>2903316we do this here at poop.fartyparty
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>>2903329i forget who is the man in the very middle below epstein
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>>2903247Of course not, but given that we're on the politics board, that'd be the thing to be expected, right?
>>2903252>The brain does not explain how you are conciousJust because we currently do not know how it works, it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Our science is simply not advanced enough yet, but we can see that certain neuronal networks light up in response to our conscious experiences.
Saying a soul exists because we don't know how our brain generates consciousness, is no different than prehistoric people saying lightnings are caused by gods, because they didn't know what actually caused them.
>>2903256Only cowards do this. Honesty above everything.
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>>2903227>I quoted a part of his reply and made my response, and when he replied back to me he strawmanned me saying I was talking about the other part of his reply.Denying correlation with suffering while arguing for more violence. Gaslight.
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>>2903346This is the niggerhell board I am sorry to disappoint you. Only shitflinging and bait is here.
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>>2903346well then you have to shit on alot of famous commie/socialist streamers online because they do alot of this shit. i feel bad for all fascists/commies because they have no real leader online. the leaders will comes from the streets to unite them. i hope that you commie folk all become strong enough to be a valued opponent to the nazis
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>>2903363WHY DONT MEOWLS EXIST
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>>2903257this one is so good
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>>2903346>Just because we currently do not know how it works, it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Our science is simply not advanced enough yet, but we can see that certain neuronal networks light up in response to our conscious experiences.>Saying a soul exists because we don't know how our brain generates consciousness, is no different than prehistoric people saying lightnings are caused by gods, because they didn't know what actually caused them.This is not a question of when soyieence will be ablee to give us an answer,
this is a question of Why would matter create meaning and understanding
If you make house out of green brics then it won't become yellow wwithout an outsidde force. The same with meaning and matter, Matter does not hold meaning, It cannot generate one.
Additionally, if Matter is the thing that makes us go then we should just be in a constant state of spasm as the particles that hit certain neurons and shit are not bound by any rules so in time a particle should hit something that it shouldn't and cause a spasm or something like that
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>>2903392where do you find these gemmies video?
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>>2903407god of the gaps vs science of the gaps. when the real winner is the "i dont know" champion
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>>2903418I know and I am right but I wont tell you because it would spoil the fun
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>>2903427well im saying if someone really wants to look at it from a 'logical' standpoint then saying idk is the only correct answer tbh. me personally i do believe a higher power exists and some form of afterlife
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>>2903346>Just because we currently do not know how it works, it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Our science is simply not advanced enough yet, but we can see that certain neuronal networks light up in response to our conscious experiences.Saying a soul exists because we don't know how our brain generates consciousness, is no different than prehistoric people saying lightnings are caused by gods, because they didn't know what actually caused them.
Thats a very optimistic view, this can only be defended if you dont have a deeper understanding of the sciences, there are things which fundamentally are beyond our knowledge.
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>>2903256We literally made the full circle from me arguing that commies cause unnecessary suffering to xhim justifying invading neighbors with violence so I called it a dead hamster.
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>>2903453the horseshoe theory? more like the dead hamster theory
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>>2903452and saying science will somehow have the answer for everything is also putting your hope in a far out abstract thing that will all reality not come to pass how you believe it will.
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science is only a tool not a worldview this is a fact
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>>2903476worst car in the game you can't even modify it
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Barely readed
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i :transheart: alunya poster
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>>2903486too many dont realize that if we embraced science's understanding of what things are most people would give into nihlism and suicide. every day when we add meaning to the universe is a win over the universe
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>>2903476Lil bro scrolls through discord dms to post the 8 year old memes from there
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>>2903506Lil bro's country is on a stalemate with a nation 50x smaller then itself
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>>2903407I don't really understand why can't matter create "meaning and understanding". I am no neurologist but from what I know our brain creates memories by growing storing information on its neurons and creating electronic impulses. How is that not meaning?
>Additionally, if Matter is the thing that makes us go then we should just be in a constant state of spasm as the particles that hit certain neurons and shit are not bound by any rules so in time a particle should hit something that it shouldn't and cause a spasm or something like thatI guess that you're referring to quantum mechanics with this? Well, you need to know that the chance of something like this happening is EXTREMELY low, almost impossible. You know, because of quantum mechanics, it is theoretically possible for, for example, a ball to phase through a wall; as long as the particles that make up the ball and the wall are set up perfectly to not collide. But the chance of this happening is abysmally low.
>>2903452True, but many of the things that we hold as impossible to be discovered by science might actually be discoverable in the future. For example, Aristotle thought it would be impossible to discover the composition of matter, and yet we did.
>>2903453But, that is not unnecessary suffering. It is suffering, sure, but not unnecessary.
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>>2903497Can you explain?
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>>>2903407
>I don't really understand why can't matter create "meaning and understanding". I am no neurologist but from what I know our brain creates memories by growing storing information on its neurons and creating electronic impulses. How is that not meaning?
>>Additionally, if Matter is the thing that makes us go then we should just be in a constant state of spasm as the particles that hit certain neurons and shit are not bound by any rules so in time a particle should hit something that it shouldn't and cause a spasm or something like that
>I guess that you're referring to quantum mechanics with this? Well, you need to know that the chance of something like this happening is EXTREMELY low, almost impossible. You know, because of quantum mechanics, it is theoretically possible for, for example, a ball to phase through a wall; as long as the particles that make up the ball and the wall are set up perfectly to not collide. But the chance of this happening is abysmally low.
>>>2903452
>True, but many of the things that we hold as impossible to be discovered by science might actually be discoverable in the future. For example, Aristotle thought it would be impossible to discover the composition of matter, and yet we did.
>>>2903453
>But, that is not unnecessary suffering. It is suffering, sure, but not unnecessary.
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Op why are you a VPN
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>>2903515I am not supposed to
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>>2903539everytime i see his face i get sad
RIP Terry Davis
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>>2903519if people en masse believed that we are nothing more then chemical reactions electrial impulses etc they would see no real meaning in this world anymore and society would most likely collapse. one of the reasons i dont like the popularization of atheism/'expert' worship. and in a universe that looks devoid of meaning everytime we add meaning we win over that universe
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>>2903557The snake in Grass in question:
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>>2903518couldnt i just say that said thing discovered in the future could also just be explained by god tho? just say you dont know and move on instead of dick riding science when i can just as easily say its god then random 1 in a million chance quantum energy creating everything
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>>2903505He has his priorities right
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>>2903518>I don't really understand why can't matter create "meaning and understanding". I am no neurologist but from what I know our brain creates memories by growing storing information on its neurons and creating electronic impulses. How is that not meaning?as i said before, You cannot make a yello house from green brics.
Meaning is not something you can touch, it is an idea. Humans (and animals) have an understanding of ideas, and can recognise them, There is no reason for why matter would generate recognision.
Additionally, what is "me"? Why is there a "me" that sees,smells, hears, and etc.? What is that exacly that thinks?
If it is just matter then how am i conscious of my actions?
If i am conscious then there must exist a "me" who is conscious. Now how could that "me" be created with matter and brain?
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>>2903518There are things which are proven to be undiscoverable, this is not a matter of opinion but fact, I dont want to go into too much detail since the things are very technical. But we know for example in computer science that there exist uncomputable functions or programms, which could never be simulated by a computer and which can never be reproduced. There was also a recent physics paper that showed that physical laws could exist that are uncomputable, meaning our knowledge of physics might also be never complete.
For technical detail refer to the uncomputable section in this wiki article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computable_functionThe nobel prize laureate Rorger Penrose for example believes that conscious is an uncomputable program, meaning we might never find out how it works-
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>>2903518>But, that is not unnecessary suffering. It is suffering, sure, but not unnecessary.Hume's razor - especially true for materialists.
Now we're arguing the suffering is necessary.
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>>2903577also because his mental illness affords him less worry about the world or stress he can just do it without thinking
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>>2903576What the actual FUCK are they doing
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>>2903588What an aryan beast
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>>2903593Ai slop gem
>>2903597Tanzanite
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>>2903586well how i see it we were designed by nature to suffer and survive regardless of anything. there is good suffering (working out jobs etc) and there is bad suffering (war terrorism famine etc)
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>>2903599If he was born a thousand years ago no doubt he'd be one of the elite of the Varangian Guard
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>>2903346Science can not know what causes conscience because it is not material
How could awareness be identified? It is an idea. Machines cannot account for ideas
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>>2903604imagine getting killed by a nigga smiling ear to ear GEG
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>>2903607MFW the supposed perfect machines were created by imprefect creators making them infact not perfect
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>>2903597>just be brapzillianthe most brootal turkpill
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>>2903622oh shit this made me geg bro GEG
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>>2903618>3rd vidrelCapicola is gabagool everthoughbeit
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>>2903624its like watching pondscum fight other pondscum…
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Eh, you know what, I admit this isn't my thing. I need to educate myself more on this.
Can we just move on to discussing politics again.
>>2903583Sure, but I didn't say all things are discoverable, I just said some of the things we deem to be undiscoverable might turn out to be in the future, once we achieve a higher level of knowledge.
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>>2903629why hasnt there been any nazi edits with the sopranos?
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Serbia and France wom btw
Spain lost
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>>2903634Politics are poopy
Metaphysics are aryaner
Plato VVQN
Aristotle VVQN
Kill all Post-Modernism Sissies
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>>2903634pol isnt just about politics this is a forum for young people to talk about life the world etc. politics is merely another part of this. again couldnt you just say its god's doing tho for those new discovered things
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Nietzche was a slut for bbc BTW
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Communism can't work as it is a collective and all collectives ignore the fact that a man is an individual and has individual goals and not collective goals
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>>2903642"where are the roman's now" erm sweaty its the entire western culture. nigga forgot that even now elite jews hate the west because how btfo'ed they got by the roman empire
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>>2903647Politics are metaphysical
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ZERBIA ZERBIA ZERBIA✌️ 😂 😂 ✌️ ✌️ ✌️ ✌️
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I am a ukrainian christian farmer and i want to kill all jewish communists that collectivized my wheat
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>>2903634I agree, I think its just pointless to argue whether consciousness comes from the soul or is a physical phenomenon, as long as we havent proven anything about it. And its pointless to claim that it will be discovered a priori, because we might not even know if it is discoverable, but enough of this topic.
Why do you think about Strasserism?
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>>2903665this is something i fight against alot in my mind. is it better to break down eveyrthing as a tool and get rid of freedom so we can have a peaceful and stable society? or should we say no gods no masters fuck everything its all about humanity to have freedom for good or bad
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>>2903679i like how you called someone else bad faith when he obviously was talking about how the collective idea in communism is much MUCH stronger then most other systems out there. society is an agreement of indiviuals to get what they want while respecting some law. its compromise. its not what communism proposes which is total unity and oneness for the good of everyone
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>>2903665I think you are not entirely correct on this, I think modern society has forced us to be more individualistic and atomized our communities, but we know from the past history of mankind, that people need small communities, where there is a collective.
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>>2903085>CIA putting Pinochet in chargeI don't deny this and I also don't deny that western countries have also attempted to sabotage socialist nations, but its a two way street. Both socialist and capitalist nations wish to infiltrate and topple each other, because a nation by default wishes to expand its power over other nations. And that has nothing do with economics, that just power is as power does. Regardless, this doesn't explain why these nations always self destruct as they do. You would think that if left wing economic theory were more robust that they would stand to overcome capitalist subversion. But not one left wing nation has ever come and gone and even done so much as provide its people with a first rate standard of living. At some point you have to stop looking at external factors and just accept there is something implicitly wrong with the mechanism of socialism.
>Yes, I am a USSR apologist. Nothing wrong with that.I think you're naive but I digress.
>And if you aren't convinced of this, just know that modern corporations such as Amazon and Walmart use this very same system.They do but this is a bullshit argument, because all these corporations function in a market system. Where they are still beholden to a price mechanism. If you took these companies methods of predicting price and put them in a socialist nation, it wouldn't work. The data itself that is used to predict price works SOLELY because there is a market that is dictating prices.
>Those images of shortages come from the collapse of the USSR in the late 80s and 90s btw. I'm not going to deny shortages were a reality but those ocurred just as central planning collapsed.we just denying the holodomor huh?
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>>2903679But too much of this will also ruin the society
WHy are you brainless???
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>>2903680This happens in the castaway server
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Serious question
Do you have brain eating parasites?
If so, will you take ivermectin or is that too right wing for you?
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>>2903688why are these jews so arrgonant and hateful of the west when they are only around because the uk and america ALLOWS them to exist. without support from the west they fall apart within a few decades. honestly its more humilating to point out the fact they only exist because of the goyim GEG
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>>2903684I would Lowkey marry xey just because they actually know how to cook
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Tung sahur will kill alunyafag for not waking up to sahur btw
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>>2903679Does work. Collective good doesn't equall collective everything.
You can act for the good of everyone but You also need individualism, otherwwise there is no point in any society, Becouse collective cares about the average of everyone.
There must be individualism otherwise there is no point in existing as you are not able to pursue your own goals
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Impose a new ideology that would only benefit me.
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Additionally,
Who is gonna clean the toilets under communism?
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>>2903601>well how i see it we were designed by nature to suffer and survive regardless of anything. there is good suffering (working out jobs etc) and there is bad suffering (war terrorism famine etc)The suffering mentioned was related to war. I said at the start that commies are correlated to gratuitous unnecessary suffering and xhe's justifying starting wars with neighbors. Communism is just an excuse for evil to do evil.
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>>2903711Wut looks women enough I like people who cook
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>>2903684Even doe gordon ramsey is a male
Good cook /= woman
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>>2903684>le women is when I am in the kitchen the whole dayDo progressive not realize that this is a sexist remark?
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>>2903718I bet those brownies taste like shit
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This is gonna hit the reply limit before anyone forms any conclusions at all
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>>2903727We're too retarded and that's the point
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>>2903726Well if they do then I am canceling the whole trip
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>>2903723It's almost like they know deep down that what the heckin nazis say about women is true
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>>2903717you are kinda right as communism does allow psychopaths to get a large following more easy but the counterpoint would be that all systems fall under this but the counterpoint to that counterpoint would be communism does it more then capitalism
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>>2903735Thats my problem with transgenderism at its core, it claims to be progressive but yet assigns certain behaviors as female and male.
>I want to be a woman so I have to wear a dressThey dont even realize their own stupidity.
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>>2903721well the irony is the only reason jews are seen as victims because of how much we have sperged out on them throughout history if we werent as violent with them they would have the same clout as gypsies GEG
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>>2903747>I want to be a woman so I have to wear a dressThey really say this.
I think true progressives don't actually like troons, but that was back before 2020 I saw this kind of discourse
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>>2903752Too late! I'm getting quote to give me your ip and i"m paying you a visit with rapeson
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>>2903747It's not just with transgenderism tbh
Have you ever noticed that liberals marry more whites while conservatives are always marrying a gook/SEA/brown woman?
They are unironically da real racists geg
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>>2903755The whole thing is contradictory, if anyone can identify as a women, why is surgery still pushed etc.
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>>2903760its the taboo that is hot to the ultra trad cath niggas. taboo or something that is off limits is appealing to people. (except being a pedo if your a pedo/zoophile your a nigger who deserves death)
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>>2903769KEK
Liberals cannot comprehend this
I am a liberal and I did not comprehend this
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>>2903774fent so strong it takes nearly burning to death to get them to sober up GEG
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>>2903774Honorarium white person
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>>2903774Aryan beast, hitler approved tweaking.
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>>2903760I also noticed this, the most natsoc like person I know irl has a black girlfriend while the most progressive person I know would never date non-whites.
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>>2903802Why do we dump vids in this SNCA namekike thread anyway?
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>>2903801make this come true with genetic engineering
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>>2903799I actually had to break off contact with this nigga because he might have gotten me on a fed watchlist.
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>>2903812can we please get a smug catgirl nazi who posts fbi stats proving blacks are violent thugs please? and thank you
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>>2903818Nigga who the fuck is this guy KEEEEEEK
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>>2903844this is so cute
why do you have so many of these videos
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>>2903848>>2903850NIGGER WE ARE SMOKING METH WHILE INVADING FRANCE AND GASSING KIKES NIGGERRRRR
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>>2903865oh shit man im invading my shit man i got zyklon b in my chambers man im a fucking aryan man
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>>2903825Well I he used to send me "based aryan" videos via whatsapp, with political content that is highly illegal in austria. At that point in time that was the only non anonymous connection that could link me to anything. Well like one year ago, I was approached irl by a very very real definitely no fed organization, it was really crazy, I was all alone in the street with these two dubious guys and they tried recruiting me for something. They gave me like flyer with the black sun, I was scared shitless.
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>>2903878
big british cock?
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>>2903880uncle ruckus if he locked in
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>>2903880why do black people do this GEG how clout hungry do you have to be
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>>2903882He's probably being mindraped by a glowie psyop right now
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>>2903882I think I have already talked about that encounter in detail on here however.
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>>2903891hes aryan unlike you muttnigger
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>>2903890uncle ruckus winned
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>>2903882geg do austrians really glow?
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>>2903882when is europe gonna step up and become a power that can deal with china? cant rely on america forever
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>>2903894I dont care, he will not ruin my political career by sending me geggy videos on whatsapp.
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>>2903916When i become the Fuhrer.
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>>2903882Holy shit nigga. They almost got your ass
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>>2903905>says the nigga from the new somalia of europeGEG
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You don't believe this
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>>2903938i dont larp as white also i'm jewish btw
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>>2903913That was the scariest encounter I have ever had nothing tops that. I straight up had schizophrenia for two weeks thinking someone is following me.
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>>2903933this is what happened to all the 'cacas 'nished by quote
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>>2903948im white doebeit
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>>2903933fuggen aryan beast
greetings from india
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>>2903949You probably did, kek.
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Don't doubt yourself, you're subconscious picks up on all sorts of stuff you don't notice immediately.
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>>2903974Neithers france faggot KEK
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>>2903935I said like that I was not interested in anything. I mean they werent like uprfont about what they were really doing but you got subtle hints, like they didnt say they were an NS org, but they had the symbols and the way they said goodbye really scared me.
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>>2903974so either europe are slaves to niggers or just weak. no winning frenchie
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>>2903974furGODs… did we win?
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>>2903961Scary feeling ngl, but you also simultaneously feel like the main character.
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I had to leave for a second, my bad.
>>2903686You have the wrong idea about how cooperation works in communism. In Marxist thought, there is no God or anything to dictate what's morally wrong or not. Instead, cooperation is justified by the fact that it benefits you as a proletarian to work with the rest of the proletariat, because the chance of you becoming part of the bourgeoisie is small. And once the communist revolution succeeds, it is in your interest to cooperate with the rest of society since an efficient global, modern economy would materially benefit you more than a bunch of small tribes without a logistical link.
>>2903691Yes, of course socialism has tried to destroy capitalism. But it has always started out in a disadvantageous position. Even at the height socialist power, it was the undeveloped third world and the USSR, which despite its apparent advantage was nowhere as dominant as the US.
It is true that corporations ultimately work on price signals, but even inside those very corporations they use simulated indicators. But anyway, is a market really the perfect indicator of price either? Just think of speculation, monopolies, etc.
>>2903715Someone with very good work conditions.
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>>2903995(((They're))) not even trying atp
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>I had to leave for a second, my bad.
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>You have the wrong idea about how cooperation works in communism. In Marxist thought, there is no God or anything to dictate what's morally wrong or not. Instead, cooperation is justified by the fact that it benefits you as a proletarian to work with the rest of the proletariat, because the chance of you becoming part of the bourgeoisie is small. And once the communist revolution succeeds, it is in your interest to cooperate with the rest of society since an efficient global, modern economy would materially benefit you more than a bunch of small tribes without a logistical link.
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>Yes, of course socialism has tried to destroy capitalism. But it has always started out in a disadvantageous position. Even at the height socialist power, it was the undeveloped third world and the USSR, which despite its apparent advantage was nowhere as dominant as the US.
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>It is true that corporations ultimately work on price signals, but even inside those very corporations they use simulated indicators. But anyway, is a market really the perfect indicator of price either? Just think of speculation, monopolies, etc.
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>Someone with very good work conditions.
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>>2903992god conquers all !
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>>2904005this muttfaggot lolipedo trooned out btw if that matters and previously stated their suicidal tendency
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>>2904013Can you post a vid where pajeet slips on his own shit and gets ran over by a truck?
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>>2904001Stop gooning to karl marx and reply to mi or something
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>>2904027I dont have it unfortunately
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>>2904001ok but they destroyed the old social structure why wouldnt they just make a new one and become the head of that? the reality is people fall into hierachy its been that way since the first caveman got a bigger mudhut then the other cavemen. just look how the soviets destroyed the old tsar system killed all there families and just remade the government. there was no dismantling of the government which is the end goal of communism
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>>2904033Ahh yes, because actual nazi networks recruit random people on the streets. Yeah bro I am dumb but not that dumb.
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>>2904001Why would anyone want to clean toilets if you choose what you do?
There is no such thing as good work conditions for cleaning toilets
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>>2904046well thats how they do become a threat GEG. you need to recruit normal niggas on the street to become powerful. how do you thiink we won the revolution? through random hicks joining the united states milita
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>>2904046Bro bro you blew your chance bro like fr fr no loco
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>>2904063>in a world without jews there is infinite energy armored powered suits of armor and flying cars what did black isle mean by this?
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>>2904071I'd kill myself if someone made an edit of me like this.
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>>2903715>Additionally,>Who is gonna clean the toilets under communism?They're forced to in practice.
>>2904001>Someone with very good work conditions.Gaslight.
>>2904054>Why would anyone want to clean toilets if you choose what you do?There is no such thing as good work conditions for cleaning toilets
Good questions
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>>2904058Let me tell you, after my extensive research on this topic, no actual organization like this exists in austria that is organized well enough to pull this off, without getting immediately arrested and put in prison for the rest of their lives.
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>>2904091I'd chose this over guns, yeah it would hurt as hell but you would prob survive an arrow to your head.
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>>2904096you wanna know why? because conditions arent bad enough for normal people to join en masse. just wait 20 years and recruitment will go up alot
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>>2904064Yeah nigga, if that was the actual nazi network, I will become a woke communist.
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>>2904089So the life lesson of that would be…… namefagging is bad?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!/
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>>2904104I think you are a normie now bro bro, actual basedBVLL like us sit in jail
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>>2904099dont they lodge into your head the most gruesome way? but yeah sure you'd survive an arrow to you cheek
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>>2904125Higher chance they would miss me if it was a nigger geg
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>>2904124I am like Alfred Rosenberg, the ideologue in the shadows.
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>>2904125contrary to popular belief despite bow having lower range than a gun, a arrow hit hurts more than a gun and its very difficult to pull it out than a bullet
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>>2904039Well, isn't this the whole point of communism? Asking this is like asking what's stopping people from turning democracies into dictatorships. And indeed, there's nothing, other than the will of the people.
>>2904054Well, if a job weren't popular, the benefits gained from it would increase. It's no different from, for example, oil rig workers earning a lot in exchange for working their ass off in horrible conditions.
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So if you didn't want to join the NS organization, can i join it then.
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>>2904152But there is supposed to be no money under communism (all forms of payment count as money)
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>>2904160Yeah bro I guess, if you want to be arrested.
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>>2904152the difference is the impact and ablitiy to corrupt is much stronger in communism then capitalism. you will have one pyschopath worshipped like a god by the people as a avatar of there freedom and fighting spirit when it reality they are a criminal insane person (stalin!)
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Aight nigga whatever just goon to your cat girl
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>>2904209the greatest lie the devil told was saying "you can be as powerful and as evil as me"
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>>2904001>Yes, of course socialism has tried to destroy capitalism. But it has always started out in a disadvantageous position. Even at the height socialist power, it was the undeveloped third world and the USSR, which despite its apparent advantage was nowhere as dominant as the US.Look I just don't agree. If you want to debate about specifics on episodes of history we can, but that would be extremely laborious. So I will disagree and leave it at that.
>It is true that corporations ultimately work on price signals, but even inside those very corporations they use simulated indicators.Ok, what is your point? Clearly these simulations are not perfect, otherwise they wouldn't even have to refer to the market economy to adjust prices and production cycles.
>But anyway, is a market really the perfect indicator of price either?Well, no. But only because there is no perfect indicator of price. There is no perfect way to determine what the collective consciousness of consumers will decide what a pound of rice or a stick of ram will be tomorrow. There are far too many factors that are constantly happening all at the same time, that even with all of these machines, we can never truly be sure of what the correct price is. That is why the price mechanism is superior to all other forms of signals, because literally nothing else is able to capture as much input as a price mechanism. And the price mechanism is the only signal we have that includes decision making from individuals WHEN IT MATTERS THE MOST. Ergo: When they actually have to make a difficult financial decision.
>Just think of speculation, monopolies, etc.I don't understand what you're saying here.
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>>2904223someone save that caca
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>>2904220Nigga just typing shit 😂 😂 😂
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>>2904236its trve doebeit
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>>2904192You know I just thought of something really gemmy. Imagine if you say yes, but you just keep pretending that everything that happens from that on is part of the actual NS thing, like if they arrest you, you say wow just like the heccin Gestappo and infront of the court you cry that you are sorry for not being loyal enough to the Fuhrer while still saying that its all part of the organization like they have an internal justice system and their own prison.
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>>2904227This is me i can confirm
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>>2904310This is also me if that matters
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>>2904165True, my explanation was intended more for a socialist state rather than after the communist revolution. Ideally, unpleasant jobs like these would be automated, but if this is not possible there is really no option other than coercion. Maybe a rotatory system could be put in place, in which someone is assigned by chance for a task.
Yes, it is true this is a flaw of communism, but there really is no other option.
>>2904207Well this just happens in dictatorial forms of communism. Even then, it's the fault of the people for not revolting.
Stalin was keyed btw.
>>2904226First off, large companies already predict for the most part how large demand will be in the near future. It's true there are many factors and all, but with current technology we can make a prediction that is very accurate, by taking in the biggest factors.
It is true that SOME mismanagement of goods will happen in a command economy. But the objective is to render those misalignments so small that they stop mattering already. The USSR couldn't do this, but we can.
Military logistics are capable of dealing with this, so why can't the economy do it either?
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>>2904382>rotart systemBut you cant force anyone to work or it wont be real communism anynore
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Can i still invest in this thread? Whos selling
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>>2904453I've got ponies in yellow
ponies in grey
ponies in blue and pink
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FUCK I TOOK THEM SERIOUSLY I FELL FOR IT I FUCKED UP NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>2904423No it does not.
Capitalism solves this dilema by increasing the pay for toilet cleaners
Communism fails at it becouse younare not getting more than you would be getting by doing something you like more
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>>2904382>Yes, it is true this is a flaw of communism, but there really is no other option.There really is no other option than communism.
>>2904382>Well this just happens in dictatorial forms of communism. Even then, it's the fault of the people for not revolting.>Stalin was keyed btw.This just happens but even then it's the people's fault for not revolting. Stalin was keyed tho.
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>>2904480>>2904495Okay, true, I said something foolish.
But still, most jobs in capitalism like this are usually filled with poorly paid low caste workers. You'd think that a job like toilet cleaners would earn a high pay but in reality it's just done by fringe members of society like immigrants and such that are barely paid a living wage.
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almost 700 repeys let's fucking gooooooo
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>>2904581>You'd think that a job like toilet cleaners would earn a high payThis will be one of the only jobs available soon.
Then the wages will go up and everything will correct
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>>2904581yes, But this dilemma applies to all labour.
You'd think that construction workers are mostly underpaid wageslaves but Construction workers from good companies actually earn a lot
<also why do you take so long to reply
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>>2904604>also why do you take so long to replyGood questions
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>>2904604>also why do you take so long to replyXhe is gooning to alunya on his government sponsored second monitor obviously
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>>2904382stalin killed millions and made communism look like a insane idealogy. every single form of communism tested on a national level devolves into dictatorship bro. you either need a capitalistic element to balance it out (modern day china) or something else entirely geg.
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>>2904581to me its insane to think that the workers wont just turn into the assholes before them just because they were oppressed. oppression doesnt equal some form of enlightenment
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>>2904806>says the one on the vpnGEG ok lil bro